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schiele Untouchable

Number of posts: 108 Age: 32 Localisation: Turkey Registration date: 2009-11-26
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 13:11 | |
| With so much uncalled-for bashing already going on, that was very unnecessary fuel to the fire indeed.. I think it made Chan's day when the skaters he criticized made it easier for him to bury them in the public. Its so sad that only one side of the coin is criticized while the other side completely flies off the radar.. I applaud Brian for avoiding to get involved in this publicly. |
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Bladette Blue Man Group

Number of posts: 707 Age: 31 Registration date: 2009-07-15
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 13:32 | |
| Yes, I think it would be wise for Brian not to give any comments about this all before the SP. Whatever he would say would be turned into something else. Titi, you must feel awful, because you wrote that article where those Plushy quotes are from? I'm sorry. |
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Anastasia Moderator

Number of posts: 4091 Age: 24 Localisation: Moscow, Russia Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 13:50 | |
| I have an opinion,that Brian has no strong protective support nor from French Federation,neither from french mass media.If he did,they would never let it happen,that he got involved in suchlike scandal,having in fact nothing to do with it. Plush has always had a long tongue,but he is always forgiven by everyone,as he wears a "crown" and he is the "King" and so on...However for Brian it may be really harmful at Olys. I don't believe in "fair play" in SPORTS any more,it's all about business & bureaucracy!I do have bad sensations for this Games,we'll see.... _________________  |
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schiele Untouchable

Number of posts: 108 Age: 32 Localisation: Turkey Registration date: 2009-11-26
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 14:00 | |
| Feeling shared here.. The expression on the face of my avatar is truly planted on my actual face these days.. I agree about the feeling that Brian has no helping hand from his media or his fed.. He worked to put transitions in the programme, has actual choreo this year but it'll never stop anybody from criticizing, will it? |
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Anastasia Moderator

Number of posts: 4091 Age: 24 Localisation: Moscow, Russia Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 14:09 | |
| Never.It seems Brian is the most attractive victim for everyone...I feel so sorry for him!I think the root of this is in the absence of INTEREST for Figure Skating in France!It's much less popular there than oher sports.Plush is supported by prime minister of RUSSIA and even president,while i doubt Nicolas Sarkozy will give a fast answer to a question "who is Brian Joubert?" He WORKS more than anyone else,he DESERVES this medal(any....any olympic medal) more than anyone,HE IS SO PROPER AND KIND in his deeds even torwards contenders,BUT STILL he tastes so much bitter...I pray for God's help FINALLY!!!KINDNESS MUST WIN OVER SELFISHNESS! _________________  |
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Gislaine The Boss

Number of posts: 11174 Localisation: Lyon ,France Registration date: 2006-06-10
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 14:09 | |
| Brian has the support of DG but if he misses Olys 2010, there this risks barding and in more he ya Florent who "grows" (he also is very going to be to watch by the fédé (in any case a French sportsman wins he has all commendations of the press, the same sportsman is planted, he has all criticisms... Brian knows something about it in 2006). Brian must make his two programmes impeccably and............. Chan makes me laugh with the statements concerning Plushenko and he reminds me of Brian at the time of the statements to the press....... Transitions etc it is but what the guys prennet of risks by attracting and réussisant quadruples it is still better otherwise it will be on the same mould and it will be annoying as everything! Brian a le soutien de DG mais s'il passe à côté des Olys 2010 , là ça risque de barder et en plus il ya Florent qui " pousse" ( lui aussi va être très surveiller par la fédé ( de toute façon un sportif français gagne il a tous les louanges de la presse ,le même sportif se plante , il a toutes les critiques ... Brian en sait quelque chose en 2006 ) . Brian doit faire ses deux programmes impeccablement et ............. Chan me fait rire avec ses déclarations concernant Plushenko et il me rappelle Brian au moment de ses déclarations à la presse ....... Les transitions etc c'est bien mais que les gars prennet des risques en tentant et réussisant les quadruples c'est encore mieux sinon cela sera sur le même moule et cela sera ennuyeux comme tout ! Have a great time Irina , Sheena , Jeanne .............  _________________ Gislaine |
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Gislaine The Boss

Number of posts: 11174 Localisation: Lyon ,France Registration date: 2006-06-10
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 14:30 | |
| We will put articles (on all present skaters) photos etc..
http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/1/grid?q=figure+skating http://www.eurosport.fr/patinage-artistique/vancouver-2010/2009-2010/la-confiance-de-gailhaguet_sto2217763/story.shtml _________________ Gislaine |
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Sheena Moderator

Number of posts: 5178 Localisation: Ireland Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 14:31 | |
| | MAMOUNA38 wrote: | | Have a great time Irina , Sheena , Jeanne ............. |
We'll try - very hard! Thanks to everyone for their good wishes..... _________________ ~Sheena~
"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" from 'Ulysses' by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (London Olympics 2012 motto)
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sevda Matrix

Number of posts: 3443 Age: 27 Localisation: kayseri/TURKEY Registration date: 2007-05-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 15:20 | |
| thank you gis  |
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humming bird Le Blues du Businessman

Number of posts: 2052 Age: 22 Localisation: Poland Registration date: 2006-06-15
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 16:07 | |
| Have a wonderful time at the Olympics ladies  Try not to die of nerves  as for Brian: much as I agree with what you girls say about him, the lack of support etc. saying that he works harder than anyone else is an exaggeration to me. Other skaters also work very very hard, some of them also study and most of them have both new programs contrary to Brian. Some also leave their country to train somewhere else and it must be very difficult for them too. But don't get me wrong - there's no denying that Brian works reaaaally hard, I just felt that it was an exaggeration to say that he works harder than everyone else. |
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toutou Empress of Image

Number of posts: 2412 Age: 31 Registration date: 2006-11-29
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 16:17 | |
| HAVE FUN at Olympics !!!! and Safety Trip, ladies  |
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Nona SOS d'un terrien en detresse

Number of posts: 4653 Age: 24 Localisation: Wijk bij Duurstede, Pays bas Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 17:45 | |
| About the article: | Quote: | | Plushenko (pictured) had headed into retirement aged just 23 following his gold-medal winning performance in Turin four years ago but he traded in his pension book just a few months ago in an attempt to become the first man in almost six decades to win back-to-back Olympic titles. |
I think she has one point here, this is a better reason to come back then 'My WIFE'. Concerning the rest of the article, there were more members here who said something about Plushes arms swaying (me included )
Normaly I also look at the transitions, but specialy in the beginning of the program. From what I've seen the last couple of years on television is that every skater does his important jumps at the beginning, after that the real skating begins. It's allmost like a to-do-list, do a quad combination with a triple, followed by a triple axel, and a triple lutz or flip. After that you can see the skater relax a bit and continue with the program. I agree if Brian said that he needs to concentrate on the jumps, specially at the beginning of the program but during the program itself I think it is necessary to use transistion. Just to keep the program intresting to watch, Lambiel and Contesti use the transitions all the time and sometimes the jumps are a suprise! And even though skaters might think that these transitions are not important, it could cost you points (cause it's still one of the presentation elements) and evantually it might even cost you a golden medal.....
Sheena, Irina, Clam, Jeanne have a GREAT time in Vancouver! Bon voyage!
Irina; I hope they will let you in with your camera!_________________ ¨°ºManonº°¨ |
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Anastasia Moderator

Number of posts: 4091 Age: 24 Localisation: Moscow, Russia Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 18:37 | |
| I still stand my ground and believe that Brian works and has worked more,than others during past 4-5 years!...I don't mean to show my disrespect to other skaters,NO WAY!I just say what i believe in and what i see. _________________  |
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lonnie Love's divine
Number of posts: 156 Age: 46 Registration date: 2009-10-18
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 20:57 | |
| | Bladette wrote: | | schiele wrote: | Nicely put oana24!!! While we're right on the subject, somebody decided to have a re-newed rant about "the jumping machines" Plushy and Jouby. I think he decided he's been quiet for long enough. And he seems to think he's gonna be the future of figure skating and save it for us.. Thank god! I was getting worried we were gonna see some new atheletes daring to do difficult jumps.  Im feeling extra b***y today so I'm gonna post this article. Here you go (Im sorry if it was already posted somewhere on the foum): http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYS5yMiIK28X-CTPFht4-ifOKT_g |
That article was so annoying, lol! This quote from Patrick is just ridiculous: "For me the transitions are one of the most important things in a programme, otherwise it's very boring to watch." I mean really?? Maybe he should be an ice dancer then??
I have to say lately it's been a bit difficult to read fsuniverse and goldenskate forums because once again so many people like to bash Brian. It's also very annoying that Plushenko had to say those things about Brian's transitions in the SP and now he got drawn into this judging mess.  |
I especially liked this opening: Chan refused to be drawn into the controversy Yeah, he's a real paragonm of manners. Half a sentence later, he is bashing Plush.
I have grown very tired of media-darling, Mr. Transitions himself. I hope he not only ends up off the Olympic podium, but out of the top 5, as well. I want him to skate in the gala just because he is Canadian and not because he'd earned the right. Perhaps that would teach him some manners.
I agree that Plushy's style (Brian's too, for that matter) is "old" - I take that to mean per-CoP, when skaters, especially men, were athletes first and had to try the most difficult ATHLETIC feats, not gather points by doining 2A-2T-2T (in the second half of the program!). I think part of the reason that Brian has such a hard time adapting his jump layout to CoP is that he (like I do) sees no point in "3-jump-combos" when those 3 jumps are the easiest in the book. He is striving to do the most difficult program (hence his obsession with 3 quads), not gather points like some accountant. Give me "old" skaters any day, Mr. Chan. I don't find "young" skaters so appealing.
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lonnie Love's divine
Number of posts: 156 Age: 46 Registration date: 2009-10-18
 | Subject: Re: 2010 Vancouver Olympics 11.02.10 21:03 | |
| | Anastasia wrote: | | I still stand my ground and believe that Brian works and has worked more,than others during past 4-5 years!...I don't mean to show my disrespect to other skaters,NO WAY!I just say what i believe in and what i see. |
What I find most admirable, is that in the summer of 2006, when he was already twice world silver medalist, Brian realized he is not (yet) the best thing that had happened to FS in ages, like some people think about themselves (cough, cough). He went to Browning to work on choreography and footwork, he went to Lucinda Ruh to work on spins. He could have stuck to same-old, same-old, like Plushy, but he decided he wanted to be BETTER, and to that end he worked very hard. Everyone can see the difference in quality, in his presentation, over the last 4 years. How many skaters continue to improve into their 20s? How many of them do that AFTER landing on the world podium? Such dedication is very special.
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