Gislaine The Boss

Number of posts: 11440 Localisation: Lyon ,France Registration date: 2006-06-10
 | Subject: Re: Rostelecom Cup (Cup of Russia) - 22-25 Oct 2009 26.10.09 15:53 | |
| Brian does not need a plan he needs serenity to get ready no DG who tells him to sleep, to live in passing in the golden medal it is a supplementary pressure which he has on the shoulders. It underwent a disappointing performance (the most terrible it crosses all his jumps fingers in the nose in the trainings and badaboum during the competition that does not go any more there also it has necessarily to see that and he has to put everything in flat with his coach and his choreographers and especially whom he stops cogitating during his programs! We saw DG making gestures to Laurent Depouilly, I admit that I found stupid this behavior especially that it was in public... Brian n' a pas besoin de plan il a besoin de sérénité pour se préparer pas un DG qui lui dit de dormir ,vivre en passant à la médaille d'or c'est une pression supplémentaire qu'il a sur ses épaules . Il a subi une contre-performance( le plus terrible il passe tous ses sauts les doigts dans le nez aux entraînements et badaboum durant la compétition ça ne va plus là aussi il faut impérativement qu'il voit ça ..... et il doit tout mettre à plat avec son coach et ses chorégraphes et surtout qu'il arrête de cogiter pendant ses programmes ! Nous avons vu DG faire des gestes à Laurent Depouilly ,j'avoue que j'ai trouvé idiot ce comportement surtout que ce fut en public ... _________________ Gislaine |
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Sheena Moderator

Number of posts: 5257 Localisation: Ireland Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Rostelecom Cup (Cup of Russia) - 22-25 Oct 2009 26.10.09 16:18 | |
| | MAMOUNA38 wrote: | Brian does not need a plan he needs serenity to get ready no DG who tells him to sleep, to live in passing in the golden medal it is a supplementary pressure which he has on the shoulders. It underwent a disappointing performance (the most terrible it crosses all his jumps fingers in the nose in the trainings and badaboum during the competition that does not go any more there also it has necessarily to see that and he has to put everything in flat with his coach and his choreographers and especially whom he stops cogitating during his programs! We saw DG making gestures to Laurent Depouilly, I admit that I found stupid this behavior especially that it was in public... |
This remainds me of what I was told (by one who was there) about the qualifying for the Turin Olympics, Jenna McCorkell was there (complete with back injury) trying to earn a spot for Turin & Sally-Anne Stapleford (NISA top-dog & of SLC fame) was appartently rinkside shouting at her etc, the spectators were not impressed at her behaviour! Needless to say, Jenna skated poorly & did not qualify..... _________________ ~Sheena~
"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" from 'Ulysses' by Alfred, Lord Tennyson (London Olympics 2012 motto)
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Malgosia Moderator

Number of posts: 3141 Localisation: Poland Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Rostelecom Cup (Cup of Russia) - 22-25 Oct 2009 26.10.09 17:18 | |
| I've been out of the loop since I came back from Paris and there's so much going on. It's hard to catch up on the news! I only managed to see Plush's performance and apart from jumps which are impressive knowing he hasn't been competing since last 3 years - the rest is just crap  . _________________ ~ Malgosia~
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Blue Bead Moderator
Number of posts: 1994 Age: 65 Localisation: Ohio, USA Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Rostelecom Cup (Cup of Russia) - 22-25 Oct 2009 26.10.09 17:55 | |
| Bladette wrote: | Quote: | What Brian needs now is to have a successful competition so he can get more confidence before the important competitions.
Quote: Blue Bead: He will lose fans and supporters faster then he's already losing them. Not only will he have to answer to himself but the legions of fans who still support him. Letting them (us) down will be tragic, to say the least. I, for one, have not invested all these years since 2002 to be led down a frozen "garden path" by a skater who gave me the strong impression that he wanted, craved Olympic gold. I will not be happy--at all.
Omg! I don't think Brian is loosing any fans right now. And if he doesn't get a medal at Olys, he doesn't have to answer to anyone except to himself. He hasn't asked anyone to be his fan or supporter. He now needs support not an ultimatum and extra pressure from "fans" who will leave him, if he doesn't get a gold medal. I really love to watch Brian's skating and that fact won't change no matter what will happen in Vancouver. I know he will try his best. And if he has this negative attitude towards sport spychologists it is unlikely that he will benefit anything from a having one, because he's attitude is so againts it. Maybe he can found help to his nervousness from somewhere else, i don't know.
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The problem with your line of reasoning is that Brian won't have a successful competition unless he takes an extremely critical look at his own thinking processes. It's his thinking--his thoughts before, during, and after he skates his program that are preventing him from skating a clean program with all the jumps and other elements he intends to put into that program. I don't know what his actual thoughts are; I'd sure like to know, though, lol. Until he addresses that problem we are likely to see a continuation of his less than stellar performances of his SP and FP. Please make note--tackling this issue is not something he can do by himself. He doesn't have the necessary experience (a degree in clinical psychology, for instance) to analyse his own problems.
So...you don't think Brian is losing fans?! Guess again. I read different figure skating message boards throughout the Internet. Lots and lots of posters are talking about Brian. Brian threads are one of the most popular topics on these boards. At FSU (yes, there really are Brian fans there, lol), alone, there are 8 posters who are disgusted with Brian's showing so far this year. These are people who ooh-ed and aah-ed over him in past years. Well, you can bet they aren't singing in praises now. Brian is getting alot of attention among the fans but a lot of it isn't the good kind. It's not that these people are mean or uninformed; for the most part they are long-time skating fans (many of them whose posts I've read since 1998) and they know what really makes a good, winning program, no matter what style any skater has.
You are correct that Brian "doesn't have to answer to anyone but himself". However, he's a skater who cares about his fans and, believe me, he doesn't want to let any of us down, so it will bother him to some degree that he can't produce what he says he can to the media. He's only human and humans have those kinds of thoughts.
| Quote: | | He now needs support not an ultimatum and extra pressure from "fans" who will leave him, if he doesn't get a gold medal. |
No one is giving him an "ultimatum," certainly not me. I'm definitely not abandoning him but I do look at his situation from a critical thought process, which is considerably different than what many of posters, here, do. What I do expect from Brian is that he will do everything necessary (whether he really wants to or not) to go after that Olympic gold medal. Look back at what Alexei Yagudin faced in 2001 at the Goodwill Games. He, too, had tried all kinds of formulas to gain gold medals but he kept failing and losing to Plushenko. He was nearly ready to walk away from the sport BUT he didn't because he (finally) listened to the pleas of his completely frustrated coach and agreed to have theraputic discussions with a pyschologist. Had he not done that he never would have been in the postition of gain his coveted Olympic gold medal. He wanted that medal so badly that he was willing to lay aside his misgivings about what a psychologist could do for him. He put his heart and soul into those sessions and the result was remarkable, to say the least. That is what Brian needs to do as well. His head, his thoughts, are preventing him from attaining that golden Olympic glory. He needs to do it soon or the chances that the therapy sessions will have the desired effect will diminish. There's a lot of work to be done with Brian and time is fleeting.
| Quote: | And if he has this negative attitude towards sport spychologists it is unlikely that he will benefit anything from a having one, because he's attitude is so againts it. Maybe he can found help to his nervousness from somewhere else, i don't know.
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It will be "unlikely" until he realizes that a psychologist is his last resort and then he will put his whole heart and mind into the task at hand. There is no other place to find help with this sort of situation because Brian doesn't have the necessary training to solve this problem on his own. I'm not suggesting that it couldn't be done, but I don't think Brian has the mental strength to do it on his own. He doesn't strike me as that kind of person.
I, also, agree with Gis--that DG needs to leave Brian alone and not try to influence him in any way. I'm speculating that the reason DG is adding his "two cents' worth" is because he sees Brian's chances of Olympic gold slipping through his (DG's) fingers. Gailhaguet is undoubtedly frustrated beyond belief because the French Fed has a tremendous amount riding on Brian's gold medal successes. If Brian can't deliver that gold medal DG will be in a hell of a mess. (That's the only thing that would explain DG's intrusion in Brian's training and competitions.)
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