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PostSubject: Skate America   09.11.09 15:16


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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   09.11.09 21:23

Sasha Cohen is out of SA. She has being diagnosed with tendonitis in her right calf.


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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   10.11.09 0:53

Here's the IceNetwork article confirming Sasha's withdrawal:
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091109&content_id=7639734&vkey=ice_pressrelease

Second article, from USFSA, with nearly the same detail but naming Emily Huges as her replacement.
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Story.asp?id=43804

Quite honestly, I'm not surprised, at all. I had a gut feeling something would happed with her to cause her to pull out. Apparently the injury to her right calf is not healing as well as she had hoped. I guess we'll have to wait and see if she can beat this injury to compete at US Nationals.

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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   10.11.09 1:17

I'm not surprised that Sasha is out, but I am glad that Emily is her replacement. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   10.11.09 7:01

Oh I would sooo love to go there. I need to find a job in the US Wink
If anyone knows a live stream, let me know!
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   10.11.09 17:11

I'm really very sad for Sasha... Actually I'm not suprised because of that withdrawing... But I'm so sorry because, first of all, she has an injury... And it can make me sad enough. I hope she will be healthier soon.

Sometimes I think about that if Sasha won't be able to compete in Olympics, again. If it's a wrong decision to come back to compete in Olympics... pleures And unfortunately, maybe, this is a wrong decision. Sad

And first of all, I hope she will be healthier soon... It doesn't matter anymore to compete in Olympics... I just want her to be healthier again. Smile

And this is the article about that withdrawing from her official web site. (Actually it's same with other articles)

http://www.sashacohen.com/news.shtml
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   11.11.09 11:53

I was really looking forward to see Sasha competing again. I hope she will be eventually at the Olympics but as the days go it seems more and more unlikely. Do you think she will have enough motivation to try for example compete in Worlds 2010 or 2011 if she gets healthy again?
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   11.11.09 12:30

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I was really looking forward to see Sasha competing again. I hope she will be eventually at the Olympics but as the days go it seems more and more unlikely. Do you think she will have enough motivation to try for example compete in Worlds 2010 or 2011 if she gets healthy again?

I sorta doubt it, I somehow think that the Olympics will be the only competition that she might be at - & a very big might at that!. Sasha has always been a lovely skater to watch (I saw her at the Queen's Golden Jubilee gala in Nottingham in 2002) but she was always going to struggle technically againist the likes of Kim & Asada & if she is carrying a chronic injury (maybe caused, certainly not helped, by hard competition training) she might end up struggling againist the other US girls too.

At least she has given the US fans something to talk about this season!

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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   11.11.09 16:20

I have to agree with Sheena on the likelihood that Sasha would return to do Worlds in 2010 or 2011. I don't think there's really a point in doing that and I can't imagine Sasha does, either.

There is some interesting discussion at FSU (sorry, I don't have the time to search for the link to it; it's in the thread, there, about her withdrawal) regarding a probable reason for her current injury. Apparently there is some research which suggest that older skaters(and athletes who do other kinds of sports which need flexibility as a component), who have always been very flexible with their muscles and tendons, tend to develop chronic problems in those areas. Sasha's amazing ability to do biehlmans and that candle split (where she extends her straightened leg upward and holds it to her chest) sets her up for future chronic injury. Note, it's not the fact that she can perform these feats of flexibilty, it's the fact that she has developed her muscles and their flexibility to the extreme and, over years of training this way, it sets her up for future injury to the ligaments and joints. So, it's no real surprise that Sasha's musculature is having serious problems. There is also a mention in that FSU thread that she had consulted an orthopedic specialist.

With this injury situation I cannot see that it would be likely she would want to risk dibilitating damage to her joints any more than is necessary. Figure skating has already taken its toll on her, injury wise. She has to keep in mind that there aren't too many movie roles for wheelchair using former skaters who turned to acting. Wink

As to why she even considered returning to competitive sport for a shot at the Olympics is anyone's guess. Perhaps her acting career is not developing fast enough for her. Perhaps she doesn't feel that she's reached whatever personal goals she set for herself in regard to the sport. She may feel that her last chance to see what she can do will be extinguised with the Olympic flame. Besides, she'd be way too old to have the stanima and drive to go after the 2014 Olympics.

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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   12.11.09 15:25

Oh, yes, that's true. I understand it. So it means, her extreme flexibility is causing some serious problems now :/ And it's not an unexpected situation...

And I agree with both of you too... I also think that this is the last chance for her to see what she really can do in Olympics. I think, she wants to win the gold this time. But this looks very hard to win against these very strong skaters.

By the way, you know, she was skating great at SP, but then she was not skating very well in FP to win the gold, in genaral. If she could skate very well in FP in 2006 Olympics, she could win the gold as well. bounce And, unfortunately, I don't think that she could do it in 2010 Olympics. Moreover she didn't compete in international competitions for 3 seasons and she has an injury now... So it looks really hard to win the Olympics gold...
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   12.11.09 20:40

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By the way, you know, she was skating great at SP, but then she was not skating very well in FP to win the gold, in genaral. If she could skate very well in FP in 2006 Olympics, she could win the gold as well. And, unfortunately, I don't think that she could do it in 2010 Olympics. Moreover she didn't compete in international competitions for 3 seasons and she has an injury now... So it looks really hard to win the Olympics gold...

The next real test for Sasha will be if she shows up to compete at US Nationals. If she does, then, I'd say she is still serious about getting to the Olympics. However, if she opts out, for whatever reason, then her competitive career is over.

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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   12.11.09 21:05

Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST

2 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA

3 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN

4 Kimberly NAVARRO / Brent BOMMENTRE USA

5 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA

7 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA

8 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR

9 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS

10 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA

1 Xue Shen / Hongbo Zhao CHN Danseuse01

2 Brooke CASTILLE / Benjamin OKOLSKI Etats-Unis

3 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG Etats-Unis

4 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR

Warm-Up Group 2
5 Keauna McLaughlin / Rockne Brubaker Etats-Unis

6 Meagan Duhamel et Craig Buntin CAN

7 Tatiana Volosozhar / Stanislav Morozov UKR

8 Dan Zhang / Hao Zhang CHN


1 Igor MACYPURA SVK

2 Andrei LUTAI RUS

3 Jialiang WU CHN

4 Ryan BRADLEY USA

5 Shawn SAWYER CAN

6 Yasuharu NANRI JPN

Warm-Up Group 2
7 Florent AMODIO FRA

8 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE

9 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN

10 Brandon MROZ USA

11 Evan LYSACEK USA

12 Tomas VERNER CZE

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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   13.11.09 14:37

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By the way, you know, she was skating great at SP, but then she was not skating very well in FP to win the gold, in genaral. If she could skate very well in FP in 2006 Olympics, she could win the gold as well. And, unfortunately, I don't think that she could do it in 2010 Olympics. Moreover she didn't compete in international competitions for 3 seasons and she has an injury now... So it looks really hard to win the Olympics gold...

The next real test for Sasha will be if she shows up to compete at US Nationals. If she does, then, I'd say she is still serious about getting to the Olympics. However, if she opts out, for whatever reason, then her competitive career is over.

Mary C.

Yes. And I think that if she even wins the gold or silver at US Nationals, maybe then her injury would relapse so maybe she won't be able to compete at Olympics... I think this wouldn't be an expected situation if her injury is chronic.

Okay, I may be pessimistic. pale

Let's wait and see what she can do at Us Nationals. ( I hope she will compete there )
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   13.11.09 21:09

Compulsory dance Results :


1 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 39.28 20.22 19.06 7.65 7.45 7.80 7.65 0.00 #10
2 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS 36.94 18.96 17.98 7.25 7.05 7.30 7.20 0.00 #9
3 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA 32.04 15.90 16.14 6.50 6.30 6.55 6.50 0.00 #7
4 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR 31.93 16.28 15.65 6.40 6.00 6.40 6.30 0.00 #8
5 Kimberly NAVARRO / Brent BOMMENTRE USA 30.19 16.10 14.09 5.75 5.40 5.65 5.80 0.00 #4
6 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS 29.32 14.92 14.40 5.85 5.55 5.90 5.80 0.00 #5
7 Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA 28.88 14.96 13.92 5.70 5.45 5.60 5.50 0.00 #6
8 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 27.43 14.96 12.47 5.20 4.75 5.05 4.95 0.00 #3
9 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST 26.89 14.46 12.43 5.20 4.60 5.05 5.10 0.00 #1
10 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA 24.39 12.78 11.61 4.80 4.40 4.75 4.65 0.00 #2
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 3:09

Ice Dance

Result (CD)

FPl. Name Nation Points CD OD FD
1 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA
39.28 1
2 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS
36.94 2
3 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE ITA
32.04 3
4 Alexandra ZARETSKI / Roman ZARETSKI ISR
31.93 4
5 Kimberly NAVARRO / Brent BOMMENTRE USA
30.19 5
6 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS
29.32 6
7 Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA
28.88 7
8 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN
27.43 8
9 Caitlin MALLORY / Kristjan RAND EST
26.89 9
10 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA
24.39 10



Pairs

Result (sp)

FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Xue SHEN / Hongbo ZHAO CHN
74.36 1
2 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Stanislav MOROZOV UKR
61.70 2
3 Meagan DUHAMEL / Craig BUNTIN CAN
59.64 3
4 Keauna MCLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER USA
58.54 4
5 Dan ZHANG / Hao ZHANG CHN
56.84 5
6 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG USA
50.14 6
7 Brooke CASTILE / Benjamin OKOLSKI USA
49.52 7
8 Stacey KEMP / David KING GBR
43.46 8
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 5:27

Men's short program results:

1 Evan LYSACEK USA 79.17 39.62 39.55 7.85 7.50 8.15 8.00 8.05 0.00 #11
2 Florent AMODIO FRA 72.65 39.90 32.75 6.65 6.05 6.70 6.50 6.85 0.00 #7
3 Brandon MROZ USA 71.40 40.90 30.50 6.25 5.90 6.10 6.15 6.10 0.00 #10
4 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 67.55 37.80 30.75 6.20 5.95 6.25 6.25 6.10 1.00 #8
5 Shawn SAWYER CAN 65.95 34.60 31.35 6.20 6.10 6.30 6.30 6.45 0.00 #5
6 Andrei LUTAI RUS 60.64 33.04 28.60 6.05 5.45 5.85 5.75 5.50 1.00 #2
7 Yasuharu NANRI JPN 59.35 29.30 30.05 6.35 5.65 6.00 6.05 6.00 0.00 #6
8 Ryan BRADLEY USA 59.24 30.94 29.30 5.70 5.60 6.15 5.85 6.00 1.00 #4
9 Jialiang WU CHN 59.16 33.06 26.10 5.45 4.85 5.30 5.30 5.20 0.00 #3
10 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 59.05 28.70 30.35 5.90 5.85 6.20 6.15 6.25 0.00 #9
11 Tomas VERNER CZE 55.90 21.80 35.10 7.45 6.80 6.75 7.15 6.95 1.00 #12
12 Igor MACYPURA SVK 51.45 29.00 24.45 5.10 4.85 4.80 5.05 4.65 2.00 #1
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 5:28

I just saw : Tomas on the 11 place! Shocked

What he did wrong? How many times did he fall?
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 7:15

Adelina wrote:
I just saw : Tomas on the 11 place! Shocked

What he did wrong? How many times did he fall?

Ohhhh wow. What happened? I saw only Dance competition , and I reall like Waltz on that.

Today I saw only E. Lysacek, and I like his program more and more. But after scores I was usre Tomas will be higher. I can't find vids in youtube with Tomas scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 7:17

Adelina wrote:
I just saw : Tomas on the 11 place! Shocked

What he did wrong? How many times did he fall?

Oh wow, what happened??
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 9:46

Tomas' program is finally online ... no great quality but at least we know now what happened ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlvUZ7Y3_ZY


edit: Quality is better now, looks like I watched it before it was properly processed by youtube ...


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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 10:32

Oh, I'm so sorry for Tomas... Sad I like his SP. Hope he will do better in the LP. Good luck, Tomas!
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 11:52

Holy shit!! Thanks for the video Steffi! What a terrible day for Tomas. No Looked like he totally gave up after that fall on the quad..!?
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 12:26

I felt so horrible watching Tomas' meltdown. He's so good, but it just wasn't his day. Sad

However, I am happy for Shen/Zhao and Brandon Mroz!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 12:54

Thx for video Stef!!!

I must confess that I still I don't know why Tomas has a low scorse. I undestand that he fell on 4T but hey It is NOT hudge mistake blahblah he should be hmmm 5th or 6th place.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate America   14.11.09 12:56

mba83 wrote:
Thx for video Stef!!!

I must confess that I still I don't know why Tomas has a low scorse. I undestand that he fell on 4T but hey It is NOT hudge mistake blahblah he should be hmmm 5th or 6th place.
...and he doubled his other jumps.
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