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Ice.Cream Administrateur

Number of posts: 666 Age: 28 Localisation: La Rochelle (not far from Poitiers !) , France Registration date: 2007-04-20
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 9:59 | |
| Some news : David Wilson will be the new choreographer for the LP !
http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/index.php//SPORT/Sports-de-glisse/Patinage/IL-MANQUE-QUELQU-UN |
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Bladette Time

Number of posts: 819 Age: 31 Registration date: 2009-07-15
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 11:37 | |
| Thanks Ice cream! This is the article google translated in English: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lanouvellerepublique.fr%2FSPORT%2FSports-de-glisse%2FPatinage%2FIL-MANQUE-QUELQU-UN&sl=fr&tl=en They still have no idea who the coach will be!!! An does someone know what DTN is? | Quote: | | A month ago, almost to the day, Laurent Joubert Depouilly left after just a few months of collaboration. "Nobody knows why, said today Raymonde Joubert. Depouilly said that DTN has terminated his contract and the DTN supports the opposite. I think above all that we have a DTN defaulting because they can not be separated from a coach when you have no alternative. Now we are trying to stay positive but the future is still done large uncertainties even though we still have the support of Didier Gailhaguet. |
I hope they solve the problems soon and I hope Brian will have nice time in Canada with Wilson. (I hope they get along, lol) |
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Bladette Time

Number of posts: 819 Age: 31 Registration date: 2009-07-15
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 12:18 | |
| This article says Brian will work the LP with Orser http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leprogres.fr%2Ffr%2Fpermalien%2Farticle%2F3234784%2FJoubert-va-piocher-a-Lyon.html&sl=fr&tl=en |
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Bublijojo The Mission

Number of posts: 472 Age: 21 Localisation: Athens, Greece Registration date: 2009-10-26
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 13:27 | |
| We will certainly know in few weeks about the choreographer of the lp but for a coach the future is very uncertain. I just hope he won't end up with veronique. He seems to change really the way he trains and try a different style of skating but still he needs a pro coach. I hope when najarro arrives at paris we will have some video at french news. I am sooo curious to see Brian doing a flamenco program. But I don't want to be like stephane's program. It was a great program but it was for stephane. Don't get me wrong but I don't want to see Brian move his hands like stephane did...We know him as the tough guy, the "macho" man and I want him to remain like this  |
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missviolet Love's divine

Number of posts: 234 Age: 19 Localisation: Slovakia Registration date: 2010-03-24
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 16:16 | |
| | Ice.Cream wrote: | Some news : David Wilson will be the new choreographer for the LP !
http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/index.php//SPORT/Sports-de-glisse/Patinage/IL-MANQUE-QUELQU-UN |
very, very good news, thank you! antonio and david.... till now i am satisfied with all the staff around brian... i wish that gossip about brian orser was true... |
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Gislaine The Boss

Number of posts: 11439 Localisation: Lyon ,France Registration date: 2006-06-10
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 17:32 | |
| http://www.leprogres-annonces.com/fr/sports/article/3234784/Joubert-va-piocher-a-Lyon.html _________________ Gislaine |
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Blue Bead Moderator
Number of posts: 1994 Age: 65 Localisation: Ohio, USA Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 01.06.10 18:01 | |
| Finally! A damned decent choreographer, lol. David Wilson is top-notch when it comes to designing programs for skaters, and whoever becomes Brian's coach, I hope they don't change one element in Wilson's choreography because you can't find a much more talented choreographer than David.
(edited to add the English translation, via Google Translate, for the article Gis posted) http://tinyurl.com/23qxlqa
Mary C. |
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mba83 Lord of the Dance

Number of posts: 1746 Age: 28 Localisation: Poland Registration date: 2008-10-07
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 02.06.10 9:40 | |
| David Wilson... Hope it's true true  |
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Gislaine The Boss

Number of posts: 11439 Localisation: Lyon ,France Registration date: 2006-06-10
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 02.06.10 14:28 | |
| http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/SPORT/Sports-de-glisse/Patinage/IL-MANQUE-QUELQU-UN One month ago, practically to the day, Laurent Depouilly left Brian Joubert after simply some months of collaboration. «They still do not know why, points out today Raymond Joubert. Depouilly says that DTN put an end to its contract and DTN supports the opposite. I think especially as there is faulty DTN because they do not part from a coach when there is not solution of spare. Now, we try to remain positive but the future is however made big uncertainties even if we always have the support of Didier Gailhaguet.» The president of the Federation remains really close to the family Joubert without sharing therefore all points of view. Recently, the name of the first coach of Brian, Veronica Guyon, reached until him but a possible new collaboration between both Poitevins does not satisfy it completely.« We stay facing the eternal problem of Brian which has its roots in Poitiers and does not want to leave them. We do not oppose to it but solution Veronica Guyon is not the panacea. I do not move it aside but injections of recall will be needed. In fact, we are facing following question: either we bring to Brian the quality of training which he needs, or we find solution on place with complement. Today, nothing is still defined. »Yesterday, the poitevin skater was in Poitiers after a stay in Lyons where he worked the choreography of his short programme. This week, he will become to Paris (irony of fate or programmed appointment, Veronica Guyon is also in the capital), to follow the work together with a Spanish choreographer.« Then we leave for two months, July and August to Canada to prepare the long programme, specifies Raymond Joubert. It will be with David Wilson, the ancient choreographer of Gwendal Peizerat and Marina Anissina (Olympic champions in ice dance in 2002). Then, they do not know. You should be necessary make nothing in haste but Brian cannot skate alone.» If, as confirms it Raymond Joubert, Veronica Guyon really took step to come back towards Brian, she confesses herself that a possible collaboration is far from being ratified. «At the moment, we discussed two hours. We took stock of the situation but there are some more barriers to be raised.» | Quote: | | Nous restons face à l'éternel problème de Brian qui a ses racines à Poitiers et ne veut pas les quitter. Nous ne nous y opposons pas mais la solution Véronique Guyon n'est pas la panacée. Je ne l'écarte pas mais il faudra des piqûres de rappel |
Didier Gaillaguet oublie énormément que c'est elle qui a découvert Brian et lui a donné toutes les bases et ce fut un bon coach .Certes il y a eu des problèmes ,je ne pense pas que nous saurons toute la vérité sur ce sujet mais s'ils doivent retravailler ensemble il faudra les résoudre avant sinon il y aura un clash comme en 2005 . Et surtout que c'est elle qui entraîne pas d'autres personnes dans l'entourage de Brian . Brian a eu deux bons coaches Véronique et J-C Simond ( des bons conseillés Alexeï Yagudin et Tatian Tarassova) ..Il y a un propos que je qui d'accord avec DG c'est que Brian veut continuer de bosser à Poitiers et ce n'est pas facile de faire venir un coach ..
| Quote: | | We stay facing the eternal problem of Brian which has its roots in Poitiers and does not want to leave them. We do not oppose to it but solution Veronica Guyon is not the panacea. I do not move it aside but injections of recall will be needed |
Didier Gaillaguet forgets tremendously that it is it which discovered Brian and created for him all bases and it was a good coach.Certes there were problems, I do not think that we will know the whole truth about this subject but if they have to revise together it will be necessary to solve them before otherwise there will be a clash as in 2005. And especially as it is it which draws away not other persons in the circle of Brian. Brian had two coaches good Veronica and J-C Simond (of recommended good Alexeï Yagudin and Tatian Tarassova).. There is a purpose that I who in agreement with DG it is that Brian wants to continue working in Poitiers and it is not easy to send for a coach.._________________ Gislaine |
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Blue Bead Moderator
Number of posts: 1994 Age: 65 Localisation: Ohio, USA Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 02.06.10 21:44 | |
| Thanks for the translation, Gislaine.
Good God, can this coaching situation get any more convoluted?!! It sounds like Brian and his mother still have no good idea of who will coach him. Meanwhile precious time gets lost over the summer without a firm basis for training in preparation for the upcoming 2010-2011 competition season, beginning with the Grand Prix. There is only so much that choreographers can accomplish in that they aren't not coaches, per se (although if Brian works with Orser in Canada, he is a legitimate coach).
All of this is a result of Brian's adamant refusal to leave Poitiers to align himself with a top-notch coach in another country. I hate to say it but I'm beginning to question Brian's desire for medals. I would think that if he really, really wanted those medals (particularly the gold ones) that he'd do everything within his power to make that happen. I'm coming to the conclusion that he is not willing to push it to that degree and it's sad that he can't push past his attachment to Poitiers. It is ludicrous to expect a top-notch coach to come to him, LOL, unless the Jouberts are offering an incredible amount of coaching funds to entice any prospective coaches who are out "there," and I can't imagine that they are offering a mind-boggling amount of money to snag a coach. I don't think their "pockets" are that deep. This is the most bizarre situation, LOL.
Mary C.
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DeborahR Mexican Hat Dance

Number of posts: 30 Age: 20 Localisation: Netherlands Registration date: 2010-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 02.06.10 22:21 | |
| thanks gis! and i completely agree with you mary. i think he has to move if he still wants to be in the top... |
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quintia Matrix

Number of posts: 3149 Age: 25 Localisation: Connecticut, USA Registration date: 2006-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 02.06.10 23:44 | |
| While I'm glad that Brian will be working with David Wilson, I'm quite pissed over the coaching fiasco. ITA with everything you say Mary. Brian needs to leave Poitiers, but he won't. As a result, he's without a coach. Without a coach and a stable environment, the possibility of him medalling at major events will decrease. |
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zandor Daft Punk

Number of posts: 2930 Age: 23 Localisation: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Registration date: 2006-09-29
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 03.06.10 6:56 | |
| | Quote: | | All of this is a result of Brian's adamant refusal to leave Poitiers to align himself with a top-notch coach in another country. I hate to say it but I'm beginning to question Brian's desire for medals. I would think that if he really, really wanted those medals (particularly the gold ones) that he'd do everything within his power to make that happen. I'm coming to the conclusion that he is not willing to push it to that degree and it's sad that he can't push past his attachment to Poitiers. It is ludicrous to expect a top-notch coach to come to him, LOL, unless the Jouberts are offering an incredible amount of coaching funds to entice any prospective coaches who are out "there," and I can't imagine that they are offering a mind-boggling amount of money to snag a coach. I don't think their "pockets" are that deep. |
ITA with you, Mary!
| Quote: | | While I'm glad that Brian will be working with David Wilson, I'm quite pissed over the coaching fiasco. |
ITA with you, Kiki!
___________ Izadora  |
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Nina Moderator

Number of posts: 3421 Age: 27 Localisation: Germany Registration date: 2006-06-12
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 03.06.10 12:03 | |
| What really irritates me in all those articles are the frequent comments by Raymond, like "WE have not decided yet" or "Then WE leave for two months, July and August to Canada to prepare the long programme"  |
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Bladette Time

Number of posts: 819 Age: 31 Registration date: 2009-07-15
 | Subject: Re: Brian & coaching issues - past, present , future 03.06.10 14:04 | |
| It won't take for two months to choreograph a program, it takes more like two weeks. So I think that during these two months in Canada, he will be coached by Orser. Like Brian said in that other interview above he will also work with Orser. I think the coaching situation is getting difficult and Raymonde sounded almost desperate in that quote "we try to stay positive"... I think they should interview more Brian and less Raymonde. |
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