MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 11:17

Bladette wrote:

Brian's FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCNnHxO4CY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Not much has changed with the choreography. I can see that he is struggling with his condition and the jumps.

He looked really off - low energy and like he was going through the motions. It's a good thing his first GP is four weeks away; he'll need the extra time. He can also use it to get a new costume... at least change that much!

There are some minor changes, such as the final spin and ending pose. One other thing that I noticed is that the first 3A looked like it was a sequence with a 2T, but the protocols only show the first jump. Why is that? Too many steps between the two jumps? It didn't look that way.

FWIW, if any of you remember the Masters three years ago, when he debuted both Rise and LotM, that was really about as bad as this year's performance, and he still managed a decent season afterward. Let's hope for the best...

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Now I understand that Brian's base value was so low because he simply isn't in such a good condition that he could have done more difficult jumps. Maybe if he had mentioned it in the interviews before the competition, instead of saying he feels confident etc., it wouldn't have come as such a big surprise. I hope he will get his condition back before the CoC.

I also read on maisondejoubert with the help of google-translator that Brian's mom couldn't understand such low scores but Brian wasn't shocked although he didn't like the judges attitude towards him.

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 12:03

I really like that the fact that Brian is doing the Matrix program again because it was my favourite free program of him and so I´m satisfied that he has kept a lot of his original choreography and his costume, which is perfect for me. But I also think that he has to improve his transitions, his condition and his jumps in order to get more points in future for this program.
Thank you for the video,
Kisses Diana Wink

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 12:56

Brian JOUBERT 2011 - Master's Orleans. Podium:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t-TPklX7J8

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 12:59

Thanks for the LP!

First of all Brian looked reeeaaalllyyy tired! There was so much effort in everything he did.
Also, for me, the old "Matrix spirit" was missing. The thing I've always adored this program for

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 13:04

I didn't liked this long program.. too empty and expressionless in my opinion Neutral

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 13:32

huge difference between Brian's and Florent's points Sad

so sad.

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 15:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsFMY2Ksbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazH9yuO3Ek

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 16:25

thanks ladies Smile

Last edited by fandebrian on 09.10.11 19:20; edited 1 time in total

I think Brian's short and free program wasn't so bad only Brian made too many mistakes in his jumps and it caused that he couldn't win this competition.
I think that Brian fell on the triple Flip in short program because he skated too fast to this jump similarly like on the Worlds 2010 when he fell on the triple Lutz in free program.
It's the beginning of the season so maybe Brian needs more time to skate better these programs and maybe introduce some interesting elements to the choreography yet who isn't bad but it could be better yet.
The one failure means nothing. Maybe Brian needs it to improve yourself in next competition.
Sometimes it's not good to be too confident in sport.
In my opinion Brian needs peaceful trainings now to exercise his jumps particularly triple Flip, Axel, Loop and Salchow and quads too because these jumps must be more confident to skate very well in the Cup of China (I know how much he wants to win) and Trophee Eric Bompard before his own audience.
It will be great if Brian will be qualified to the Grand Prix final (he said that he will compete in the Grand Prix competition last time in his career).
Brian's form isn't such like we fans would like it but it's the beginning of the new season and maybe Brian has to take part in some competition to improve it and to be more confident on the ice in the most important competition for him like the Europeans and first of all the World Championships in Nice.
Brian showed many times in his carrer that he can prepare very well to the important competition so I think it will be likewise in this season too!
I wish him a lot of joy from his figure skating in this season Very Happy

I hope his every competition will be better and better and his the best form will come on the Worlds in his country.
BONNE CHANCE BRIAN Very Happy

JE SUIS TOUJOURS AVEC TOI Drapeau

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 19:18

Brian Joubert K&C after free program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nmiJtkfujM

Brian's interview after free program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCb09yB6Og

Last edited by facepalm on 09.10.11 20:31; edited 1 time in total

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The very last thing I'd want Brian to do is skate
Lysacek-style programs; Evan practically went on the ice with a
calculator attached at the hip.

That's how you win though. This is where we decide. Do we want ugly programs and a winner, or enjoyable programs and maybe 4th place? That's figure skating now.

From watching both K&Cs I think that Brian is perfectly fine with what went on. I don't know that he'll be ready for CoC, but we'll see. I just think he should take it easy, and not bring about a career ending injury. So it's probably best that he changed his main goal from this year (World's in Nice) to the Olympics in two years. He probably knows he needs more time.

I have a couple of questions. 1) When a skater has an injury are they allowed to take painkillers? Or do they just have to ice it and skate with the pain? 2) What do most of you guys mean by "condition"? Do you think Brian isn't in shape besides his injuries or are you just talking about his injuries?

I don't think Brian was tired. I think he was bummed. I think he expects things to go better then when he starts making mistakes the wind goes out of his sails. That's why my advice would be mental training instead of physical training. I also have a problem with figure skaters dieting all the time. I would think it would make them weak. So any gain in being lighter in the air would be offset by the weakness of being malnourished. They all look gaunt and exhausted around major competitions and I always think the guy who ate is going to win. But that's just my opinion.

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 20:23

http://www.passion-patinage.com/?p=2322

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Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 20:47

facepalm wrote:

That's how you win though. This is where we decide. Do we want ugly programs and a winner, or enjoyable programs and maybe 4th place? That's figure skating now.

I have a couple of questions. 1) When a skater has an injury are they allowed to take painkillers? Or do they just have to ice it and skate with the pain? 2) What do most of you guys mean by "condition"? Do you think Brian isn't in shape besides his injuries or are you just talking about his injuries?

I think Brian can be smarter about program construction while still retaining his individuality. Lysacek was just code-whoring past a certain point in his career. I think Chan is, too; I get the sense he's much more interesting and quirky than the material Nichol gives him.

Skaters can take painkillers so long as they do not contain banned substances; I imagine the skaters can consult with team physicians or someone familiar with the regulations. Brian, for instance, was receiving injections to manage the pain from his knee injury prior to Worlds. The only doping cases I know of in skating were Elena Berezhnaya, who took some cold medication that included something banned, and Yuri Larionov. Elena and Anton were stripped of their 2000 Euros title and suspended for three months; Larionov was suspended for 18 months.

Brian looks like he has stamina issues, his energy level just appeared off; he seemed to tire easily. I'd love to know how many run throughs he's been doing in practice. I agree it might be the dieting - every time he mentions having lost weight, he seems to lack energy. It's not easy balancing this, as he does need to stick to a certain weight to be able to do the jumps right (and to put less stress on his knee).

Subject: Re: MASTER'S 2011 ORLEANS/Masters à Orléans 2011 09.10.11 20:54

Gislaine wrote:

http://www.passion-patinage.com/?p=2322

Merci beaucoup Gislaine Wink