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PostSubject: Four Continents Championship 2012   10.02.12 13:13

1 Q Patrick CHAN CAN 87.95 45.73 42.22 8.61 8.21 8.32 8.54 8.54 0.00 #20
2 Q Takahito MURA JPN 83.44 47.22 36.22 7.50 6.82 7.43 7.29 7.18 0.00 #27
3 Q Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 82.59 41.64 41.95 8.50 8.14 8.39 8.46 8.46 1.00 #24
4 Q Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN 82.37 43.88 38.49 7.75 7.46 7.89 7.71 7.68 0.00 #21
5 Q Denis TEN KAZ 77.73 43.44 35.29 7.14 6.79 7.04 7.18 7.14 1.00 #26
6 Q Ross MINER USA 76.89 41.68 35.21 7.18 6.79 7.14 7.14 6.96 0.00 #18
7 Q Adam RIPPON USA 74.92 39.79 36.13 7.39 6.96 7.21 7.36 7.21 1.00 #17
8 Q Nan SONG CHN 69.34 38.23 32.11 6.64 6.18 6.39 6.54 6.36 1.00 #19
9 Q Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 68.22 34.36 34.86 7.04 6.75 6.96 7.07 7.04 1.00 #23
10 Q Jinlin GUAN CHN 66.36 36.00 30.36 6.18 5.82 6.32 6.00 6.04 0.00 #15
11 Q Misha GE UZB 64.49 32.99 31.50 6.14 5.79 6.50 6.43 6.64 0.00 #16
12 Q Jeremy TEN CAN 61.37 31.23 30.14 6.11 5.89 5.89 6.07 6.18 0.00 #12
13 Q Richard DORNBUSH USA 61.34 29.60 32.74 6.71 6.32 6.46 6.71 6.54 1.00 #22
14 Q Christopher CALUZA PHI 58.02 30.37 27.65 5.54 5.29 5.64 5.57 5.61 0.00 #13
15 Q Jialiang WU CHN 56.19 27.26 28.93 6.32 5.54 5.71 5.79 5.57 0.00 #25
16 Q Alex Kang Chan KAM KOR 52.12 28.56 23.56 5.07 4.46 4.75 4.71 4.57 0.00 #3
17 Q Abzal RAKIMGALIEV KAZ 52.10 24.28 29.82 6.04 5.50 5.96 6.21 6.11 2.00 #28
18 Q Mark WEBSTER AUS 50.88 26.27 24.61 5.18 4.68 4.93 4.93 4.89 0.00 #14
19 Q Luiz MANELLA BRA 50.17 27.14 23.03 4.82 4.46 4.68 4.61 4.46 0.00 #7
20 Q Jordan JU TPE 49.49 27.81 22.68 4.71 4.25 4.54 4.75 4.43 1.00 #8
21 Q Min-Seok KIM KOR 49.39 24.64 25.75 5.39 4.96 5.11 5.18 5.11 1.00 #10
22 Q Kevin ALVES BRA 47.96 25.40 23.56 4.89 4.39 4.71 4.75 4.82 1.00 #9
23 Q Brendan KERRY AUS 47.01 24.91 23.10 4.96 4.43 4.54 4.71 4.46 1.00 #11
24 Q Nicholas FERNANDEZ AUS 44.57 23.93 21.64 4.71 4.04 4.32 4.39 4.18 1.00 #1
25 Harry Hau Yin LEE HKG 42.00 21.47 20.53 4.25 3.86 4.21 4.21 4.00 0.00 #4
26 Maverick EGUIA PHI 41.63 22.67 20.96 4.50 3.89 4.25 4.25 4.07 2.00 #2
27 Wun-Chang SHIH TPE 37.27 17.80 20.47 4.29 3.86 3.93 4.18 4.21 1.00 #6
28 Hwan-Jin KIM KOR 36.95 15.73 21.22 4.43 4.04 3.96 4.43 4.36 0.00 #5

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   10.02.12 14:17

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   10.02.12 17:49

My goodness, Mr Chan only got less than 88 points! And in which parallel universe does Kevin Reynolds have better pcs skills han Jeremy Ten??

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   10.02.12 18:42

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My goodness, Mr Chan only got less than 88 points! And in which parallel universe does Kevin Reynolds have better pcs skills han Jeremy Ten??
That's nearly 88 with a quad fall. And incredibly, without the usually LOLsy PCS! You know, for all the talk about how he has super-duper steps and TR into everything - he had as long a setup for the quad attempt as everyone else.

Jeremy hasn't skated internationally in a while. Everyone knows one's skating skills and IN get worse if you're not competing. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   11.02.12 12:00

Aha, that explains such a low score!

Yes you are right, I have noticed that Chan's quad build up is pretty similar to Brian or any one else's. There can be no doubt that the names of Chan & Plushenko are worth a lot of extra points in themselves!

{OT - I did notice again at Sheffield how smooth, powerful & flowing Brian's edges & footwork are, I sat at one practice beside an English friend (an adult dancer, very critical of bad skating skills etc) & she commented how much she loved watching his feet - that is a mega compliment from a dancer!}

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   11.02.12 12:08

This is a weird schedule, the men are finished, the ladies half done & the pairs & dance haven't yet started!

Men - Free Skating

1 Patrick CHAN CAN 185.99 95.83 90.16 9.04 8.93 9.04 9.11 8.96 0.00 #21
2 Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 161.74 76.88 84.86 8.50 8.21 8.54 8.54 8.64 0.00 #20
3 Adam RIPPON USA 146.63 73.41 74.22 7.54 7.00 7.57 7.54 7.46 1.00 #14
4 Ross MINER USA 146.34 73.04 74.30 7.50 7.29 7.43 7.54 7.39 1.00 #24
5 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 135.04 66.74 69.30 7.04 6.57 6.93 7.11 7.00 1.00 #15
6 Takahito MURA JPN 133.72 62.16 71.56 7.46 6.86 7.14 7.25 7.07 0.00 #23
7 Denis TEN KAZ 132.30 63.22 70.08 7.14 6.79 6.93 7.18 7.00 1.00 #22
8 Misha GE UZB 132.04 63.04 69.00 6.86 6.32 7.18 6.96 7.18 0.00 #17
9 Jinlin GUAN CHN 130.17 63.17 67.00 6.89 6.43 6.68 6.75 6.75 0.00 #16
10 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN 125.67 56.91 69.76 7.14 6.71 6.89 7.07 7.07 1.00 #19
11 Nan SONG CHN 121.17 59.37 62.80 6.57 5.86 6.39 6.29 6.29 1.00 #13
12 Christopher CALUZA PHI 114.58 52.78 61.80 6.11 5.89 6.36 6.18 6.36 0.00 #11
13 Min-Seok KIM KOR 107.75 56.53 52.22 5.57 4.93 5.32 5.29 5.00 1.00 #4
14 Richard DORNBUSH USA 102.95 41.49 62.46 6.36 6.04 6.04 6.43 6.36 1.00 #8
15 Alex Kang Chan KAM KOR 101.95 46.09 55.86 5.89 5.21 5.61 5.68 5.54 0.00 #12
16 Abzal RAKIMGALIEV KAZ 101.53 51.39 53.14 5.46 4.89 5.25 5.43 5.54 3.00 #7
17 Jialiang WU CHN 100.43 49.21 52.22 5.71 4.93 5.29 5.18 5.00 1.00 #10
18 Jeremy TEN CAN 97.85 37.13 63.72 6.54 6.14 6.14 6.50 6.54 3.00 #18
19 Brendan KERRY AUS 97.25 49.31 47.94 5.11 4.57 4.79 4.89 4.61 0.00 #6
20 Mark WEBSTER AUS 87.99 37.43 50.56 5.32 4.79 4.96 5.25 4.96 0.00 #9
21 Nicholas FERNANDEZ AUS 87.19 42.57 45.62 4.71 4.32 4.57 4.64 4.57 1.00 #2
22 Jordan JU TPE 85.48 43.42 43.06 4.64 4.25 4.11 4.46 4.07 1.00 #3
23 Kevin ALVES BRA 84.98 44.08 42.90 4.64 3.96 4.25 4.39 4.21 2.00 #5
24 Luiz MANELLA BRA 82.90 42.12 42.78 4.57 4.07 4.25 4.39 4.11 2.00 #1

Men - Overall Result

1 Patrick CHAN CAN 273.94 1 1
2 Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 244.33 3 2
3 Ross MINER USA 223.23 6 4
4 Adam RIPPON USA 221.55 7 3
5 Takahito MURA JPN 217.16 2 6
6 Denis TEN KAZ 210.03 5 7
7 Tatsuki MACHIDA JPN 208.04 4 10
8 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 203.26 9 5
9 Misha GE UZB 196.53 11 8
10 Jinlin GUAN CHN 196.53 10 9
11 Nan SONG CHN 190.51 8 11
12 Christopher CALUZA PHI 172.60 14 12
13 Richard DORNBUSH USA 164.29 13 14
14 Jeremy TEN CAN 159.22 12 18
15 Min-Seok KIM KOR 157.14 21 13
16 Jialiang WU CHN 156.62 15 17
17 Alex Kang Chan KAM KOR 154.07 16 15
18 Abzal RAKIMGALIEV KAZ 153.63 17 16
19 Brendan KERRY AUS 144.26 23 19
20 Mark WEBSTER AUS 138.87 18 20
21 Jordan JU TPE 134.97 20 22
22 Luiz MANELLA BRA 133.07 19 24
23 Kevin ALVES BRA 132.94 22 23
24 Nicholas FERNANDEZ AUS 131.76 24 21
25 Harry Hau Yin LEE HKG FNR 25
26 Maverick EGUIA PHI FNR 26
27 Wun-Chang SHIH TPE FNR 27
28 Hwan-Jin KIM KOR FNR 28

Ladies - Short Program - Result Details

1 Q Mao ASADA JPN 64.25 34.11 30.14 7.61 7.25 7.68 7.50 7.64 0.00 #19
2 Q Ashley WAGNER USA 64.07 34.64 29.43 7.29 7.11 7.46 7.39 7.54 0.00 #22
3 Q Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 63.45 35.16 28.29 7.21 6.86 7.18 7.00 7.11 0.00 #23
4 Q Caroline ZHANG USA 58.74 32.79 25.95 6.57 6.18 6.61 6.54 6.54 0.00 #27
5 Q Kexin ZHANG CHN 54.07 31.59 23.48 6.18 5.82 5.79 5.89 5.68 1.00 #25
6 Q Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 52.87 27.07 26.80 6.68 6.50 6.68 6.79 6.86 1.00 #28
7 Q Amelie LACOSTE CAN 51.72 25.84 25.88 6.57 6.43 6.43 6.50 6.43 0.00 #20
8 Q Cynthia PHANEUF CAN 50.76 26.56 26.20 6.54 6.36 6.46 6.64 6.75 2.00 #29
9 Q Min-Jeong KWAK KOR 48.72 25.01 23.71 6.00 5.64 6.04 6.07 5.89 0.00 #26
10 Q Bingwa GENG CHN 46.98 25.52 23.46 6.07 5.68 5.86 5.89 5.82 2.00 #30
11 Q Haruka IMAI JPN 45.19 21.18 24.01 6.11 5.71 5.82 6.25 6.11 0.00 #24
12 Q Victoria MUNIZ PUR 42.63 24.46 18.17 4.57 4.21 4.79 4.46 4.68 0.00 #16
13 Q Mimi Tanasorn CHINDASOOK THA 37.23 20.77 16.46 4.32 4.00 4.07 4.25 3.93 0.00 #10
14 Q Alexandra NAJARRO CAN 37.08 18.48 18.60 4.89 4.36 4.57 4.75 4.68 0.00 #18
15 Q Chae-Yeon SUHR KOR 36.54 20.63 16.91 4.46 4.00 4.25 4.29 4.14 1.00 #14
16 Q Qiuying ZHU CHN 36.43 17.31 20.12 5.29 4.82 4.96 5.07 5.00 1.00 #21
17 Q Sandra KOHPON THA 35.58 20.53 15.05 3.93 3.68 3.75 3.82 3.64 0.00 #2
18 Q Melinda WANG TPE 35.35 19.62 16.73 4.39 3.89 4.25 4.18 4.21 1.00 #9
19 Q Yea-Ji YUN KOR 32.46 17.69 15.77 4.21 3.68 3.96 4.04 3.82 1.00 #7
20 Q Chantelle KERRY AUS 32.28 18.91 15.37 3.96 3.71 3.71 4.00 3.82 2.00 #1
21 Q Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 32.15 18.09 16.06 4.18 3.86 4.04 4.00 4.00 2.00 #17
22 Q Melanie SWANG THA 31.21 17.64 14.57 3.82 3.50 3.64 3.79 3.46 1.00 #13
23 Q Crystal KIANG TPE 30.91 15.11 15.80 3.93 3.86 3.96 3.96 4.04 0.00 #12
24 Q Zhaira COSTINIANO PHI 30.33 15.75 15.58 4.00 3.61 3.86 4.04 3.96 1.00 #4
25 Reyna HAMUI MEX 29.84 15.59 15.25 3.86 3.64 3.68 3.93 3.96 1.00 #5
26 Chaochih LIU TPE 29.07 14.76 15.31 3.75 3.75 3.75 4.00 3.89 1.00 #11
27 Mericien VENZON PHI 28.91 14.68 15.23 3.86 3.54 3.86 3.89 3.89 1.00 #8
28 Brittany LAU SIN 28.79 15.30 13.49 3.50 3.21 3.32 3.57 3.25 0.00 #3
29 Zara PASFIELD AUS 28.14 15.51 13.63 3.50 3.07 3.46 3.43 3.57 1.00 #6
30 Jaimee NOBBS AUS 26.33 12.28 14.05 3.68 3.32 3.46 3.68 3.43 0.00 #15

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   11.02.12 12:23

Sheena wrote:
Aha, that explains such a low score!

Yes you are right, I have noticed that Chan's quad build up is pretty similar to Brian or any one else's. There can be no doubt that the names of Chan & Plushenko are worth a lot of extra points in themselves!

{OT - I did notice again at Sheffield how smooth, powerful & flowing Brian's edges & footwork are, I sat at one practice beside an English friend (an adult dancer, very critical of bad skating skills etc) & she commented how much she loved watching his feet - that is a mega compliment from a dancer!}
A friend of mine is a Plushy fan and she remarked that the judges must have been very happy about his comeback to give him the SP marks they did at Euros, or something to that effect.

As for Brian, I think he's one of those skaters who needs to be seen live to be really appreciated. By some people, at least - I appreciated him on TV, too Very Happy But the power doesn't fully come across when it's not live. And while he may not be as quick on his feet as Chan, at least he holds an edge when the program calls for it, something Chan seems uninterested or incapable of doing. Chan's edges can be deep but I'm not sure how controlled they are, and he doesn't give the audience or the judges too many opportunities to find out.

Happy to see (from the scores) that Mao and Ashley are in good form, and Caroline Zhang continuing her comeback. I hope they can all keep that positive momentum going.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 6:46

I don't understand edges. Chan always looks to me like he's going to tip over so since they give him the best scores, I assumed that's what it's supposed to look like. He always looks really light on his feet as well, so I guess that's what you're supposed to do too. I don't know. It's really hard to go by the judging. I watched the ice dance short today and I thought the Shibutanis were way better than everyone else. But they came in a distant 3rd. I don't think figure skating scores are something you can understand anymore unless you are a skater. I've been trying to catch on since the Olympics and I can't make sense out of them.

Also I don't know how many of you guys have been able to watch this competition but the altitude has been really affecting the skaters. I didn't think Nan Song was going to survive. It's a coincidence that Chan trains there I'm sure but I don't think they should have international competitions in a place like that. It doesn't seem fair. I have no idea how long it takes to get used to the difference in the air, but the Asians especially seemed to have a difficult time.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 8:01

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I don't understand edges. Chan always looks to me like he's going to tip over so since they give him the best scores, I assumed that's what it's supposed to look like. He always looks really light on his feet as well, so I guess that's what you're supposed to do too. I don't know. It's really hard to go by the judging. I watched the ice dance short today and I thought the Shibutanis were way better than everyone else. But they came in a distant 3rd. I don't think figure skating scores are something you can understand anymore unless you are a skater. I've been trying to catch on since the Olympics and I can't make sense out of them.

Also I don't know how many of you guys have been able to watch this competition but the altitude has been really affecting the skaters. I didn't think Nan Song was going to survive. It's a coincidence that Chan trains there I'm sure but I don't think they should have international competitions in a place like that. It doesn't seem fair. I have no idea how long it takes to get used to the difference in the air, but the Asians especially seemed to have a difficult time.
I think sometimes differences between skaters are more obvious when you see them live. For instance, though I could see she was very good, I never understood why Yu-Na Kim's scores were that huge. Then I went to 2009 TEB, and I totally got it. V/M live are so fast, smooth and precise; they were much better than the other teams there (e.g. Nath and Fab, the Kerrs).

As for Colorado Springs, it's not like this was some huge surprise that it's high altitude, and sports events have been held in high altitude locations before (e.g. Mexico City and SLC Olympics). Denver of course has multiple professional sports teams, and other than wacky baseball statistics, this seems to have had no ill effect. Really, skaters should have adjusted their prep accordingly - it's not like there are no places to train at altitude outside of Colorado.

I was kind of hoping Mao would win, but I'm very happy for Ashley Wagner, who's having a real breakthrough season! Pairs seemed to have been blah; Denney and Coughlin are hideous to watch, the Canadians were off-form, and the Chinese sent the junior varsity.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 9:13

Ladies - Free Skating - Result Details

1 Ashley WAGNER USA 128.34 66.61 61.73 7.61 7.46 7.93 7.71 7.86 0.00 #20
2 Mao ASADA JPN 124.37 62.95 61.42 7.75 7.43 7.64 7.82 7.75 0.00 #23
3 Caroline ZHANG USA 117.44 63.25 54.19 6.86 6.36 7.07 6.79 6.79 0.00 #19
4 Kexin ZHANG CHN 108.52 58.32 51.20 6.71 6.25 6.39 6.54 6.11 1.00 #24
5 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 105.87 51.58 54.29 7.00 6.68 6.82 6.86 6.57 0.00 #22
6 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 104.36 49.27 55.09 7.04 6.71 6.86 6.93 6.89 0.00 #21
7 Cynthia PHANEUF CAN 96.71 44.83 51.88 6.54 6.21 6.50 6.54 6.64 0.00 #14
8 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 95.93 43.84 53.09 6.75 6.50 6.57 6.75 6.61 1.00 #15
9 Haruka IMAI JPN 89.30 49.05 42.25 5.54 5.11 5.18 5.36 5.21 2.00 #13
10 Min-Jeong KWAK KOR 81.80 40.41 42.39 5.75 5.00 5.32 5.29 5.14 1.00 #18
11 Bingwa GENG CHN 80.91 37.02 45.89 6.07 5.57 5.61 5.82 5.61 2.00 #16
12 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN 80.03 40.29 40.74 5.21 4.89 5.11 5.14 5.11 1.00 #8
13 Victoria MUNIZ PUR 75.20 36.36 40.84 5.39 4.82 5.07 5.21 5.04 2.00 #17
14 Chantelle KERRY AUS 70.21 37.72 32.49 4.14 3.96 4.14 4.07 4.00 0.00 #3
15 Melinda WANG TPE 68.34 32.15 36.19 4.54 4.36 4.61 4.57 4.54 0.00 #12
16 Sandra KHOPON THA 67.57 35.39 32.18 4.21 3.79 4.11 4.11 3.89 0.00 #10
17 Qiuying ZHU CHN 66.34 34.09 34.25 4.61 3.96 4.29 4.36 4.18 2.00 #11
18 Melanie SWANG THA 64.95 36.05 28.90 3.71 3.46 3.64 3.71 3.54 0.00 #4
19 Yea-Ji YUN KOR 64.39 33.50 31.89 4.29 3.71 4.11 4.00 3.82 1.00 #6
20 Crystal KIANG TPE 62.88 31.61 31.27 3.96 3.79 3.93 3.93 3.93 0.00 #2
21 Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 62.19 30.12 32.07 4.11 3.71 4.04 4.07 4.11 0.00 #1
22 Mimi Tanasorn CHINDASOOK THA 59.96 28.04 32.92 4.36 3.96 4.00 4.21 4.04 1.00 #9
23 Chae-Yeon SUHR KOR 58.41 28.47 31.94 4.25 3.75 3.96 4.07 3.93 2.00 #7
24 Zhaira COSTINIANO PHI 56.93 27.64 30.29 4.07 3.61 3.68 3.93 3.64 1.00 #5


Ladies - Overall Result

1 Ashley WAGNER USA 192.41 2 1
2 Mao ASADA JPN 188.62 1 2
3 Caroline ZHANG USA 176.18 4 3
4 Kanako MURAKAMI JPN 169.32 3 5
5 Kexin ZHANG CHN 162.59 5 4
6 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 157.23 6 6
7 Amelie LACOSTE CAN 147.65 7 8
8 Cynthia PHANEUF CAN 147.47 8 7
9 Haruka IMAI JPN 134.49 11 9
10 Min-Jeong KWAK KOR 130.52 9 10
11 Bingwa GENG CHN 127.89 10 11
12 Victoria MUNIZ PUR 117.83 12 13
13 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN 117.11 14 12
14 Melinda WANG TPE 103.69 18 15
15 Sandra KHOPON THA 103.15 17 16
16 Qiuying ZHU CHN 102.77 16 17
17 Chantelle KERRY AUS 102.49 20 14
18 Mimi Tanasorn CHINDASOOK THA 97.19 13 22
19 Yea-Ji YUN KOR 96.85 19 19
20 Melanie SWANG THA 96.16 22 18
21 Chae-Yeon SUHR KOR 94.95 15 23
22 Lejeanne MARAIS RSA 94.34 21 21
23 Crystal KIANG TPE 93.79 23 20
24 Zhaira COSTINIANO PHI 87.26 24 24
25 Reyna HAMUI MEX FNR 25
26 Chaochih LIU TPE FNR 26
27 Mericien VENZON PHI FNR 27
28 Brittany LAU SIN FNR 28
29 Zara PASFIELD AUS FNR 29
30 Jaimee NOBBS AUS FNR 30


Pairs - Short Program - Result Details

1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 66.75 37.31 29.44 7.11 7.07 7.61 7.43 7.57 0.00 #8
2 Caydee DENNEY / John COUGHLIN USA 63.35 35.55 27.80 7.04 6.64 7.11 6.96 7.00 0.00 #1
3 Mary Beth MARLEY / Rockne BRUBAKER USA 62.42 34.96 27.46 6.79 6.61 6.96 6.96 7.00 0.00 #3
4 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Mervin TRAN JPN 61.54 34.74 27.80 6.96 6.79 6.89 7.07 7.04 1.00 #7
5 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG USA 60.75 32.47 28.28 7.00 6.93 7.18 7.21 7.04 0.00 #9
6 Paige LAWRENCE / Rudi SWIEGERS CAN 57.97 31.28 26.69 6.64 6.36 6.68 6.82 6.86 0.00 #10
7 Jessica DUBE / Sebastien WOLFE CAN 57.68 31.28 26.40 6.61 6.29 6.82 6.64 6.64 0.00 #2
8 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 57.53 31.44 26.09 6.75 6.43 6.36 6.54 6.54 0.00 #4
9 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN 49.52 27.29 22.23 5.89 5.32 5.68 5.57 5.32 0.00 #6
10 Yue ZHANG / Lei WANG CHN 48.04 24.41 23.63 6.11 5.64 5.93 6.00 5.86 0.00 #5

Ice Dance - Short Dance - Result Details

1 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA 72.15 34.71 37.44 9.39 9.25 9.32 9.43 9.39 0.00 #8
2 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 71.60 33.92 37.68 9.39 9.29 9.46 9.39 9.54 0.00 #9
3 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 64.23 31.43 32.80 8.07 7.93 8.29 8.29 8.36 0.00 #11
4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 63.38 31.86 31.52 7.93 7.64 8.04 7.89 7.89 0.00 #10
5 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 49.93 25.50 25.43 6.43 6.39 6.21 6.39 6.36 1.00 #7
6 Alexandra PAUL / Mitchell ISLAM CAN 48.52 23.71 24.81 6.39 6.00 6.29 6.29 6.07 0.00 #5
7 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 45.42 24.00 21.42 5.43 5.14 5.36 5.46 5.36 0.00 #4
8 Danielle OBRIEN / Gregory MERRIMAN AUS 40.10 20.64 20.46 5.25 4.93 5.14 5.21 5.04 1.00 #6
9 Anna NAGORNYUK / Viktor KOVALENKO UZB 39.93 21.49 18.44 4.75 4.50 4.61 4.75 4.46 0.00 #2
10 Corenne BRUHNS / Ryan VAN NATTEN MEX 35.93 20.64 15.29 4.00 3.71 3.82 3.93 3.68 0.00 #3
11 Cortney MANSOUR / Daryn ZHUNUSSOV KAZ 25.53 13.22 13.31 3.54 3.25 3.32 3.43 3.14 1.00 #1

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 9:41

Just to add to my previous post - I read that Non Song had to be hospitalized, which makes me wonder if there's not something going on beyond altitude issues; AFAIK, an airplane at cruising altitude is pressurized to a higher elevation than Colorado Springs. Regardless of what the problem is, I hope he'll recover quickly.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 11:58

Sounds serious, I hope he will be ok.

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 13:45

I hope Nan Song will be okay.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 14:38

Yulie wrote:

I think sometimes differences between skaters are more obvious when you see them live. For instance, though I could see she was very good, I never understood why Yu-Na Kim's scores were that huge. Then I went to 2009 TEB, and I totally got it. V/M live are so fast, smooth and precise; they were much better than the other teams there (e.g. Nath and Fab, the Kerrs).

there really is a big difference from live to tv. i still remember brian's performance at the worlds in goteborg. live he was breath taking. his power, his will to be number one, his passion, everything about him was so obvious and it overwhelmed the audience. but that same evening i went bakc to the b&b and watched the program again on tv. first i did not even recognized the outfit, it looked so different and not at all good and all the feeling did not seem to be there.
this also applied for virtue and moir fd performance at those worlds.

so i always think when i see something on tv about how it might really be live.

as to the high altitude, it always seemed to bother skaters. i remember reading even yagudin complained about it when he had to skate in colorado. so i guess there really is something about colorado and the rarefied air there.

as for chan, i saw this pic and i think it says it all perfectly
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 15:22

A clever picture, Irina!

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 16:34

This picture is really entertaining. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 19:49

Yulie wrote:
That's nearly 88 with a quad fall.

There's a little bit of a controversy over this cause judges didn't count it as a fall so there was no point deduction for it.
http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/archive/results_four_continents/4c12%20Fall%20Definition.htm

Picture posted by Irina explains it pretty well lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   12.02.12 20:46

Irina, that picture pretty much sums it up when it comes to Chan.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   13.02.12 10:24

That is an interesting link Malgosia - thanks! Mr G Rossano is a well known NA judge, he also posts on GS fairly regularly.

For that quad attempt, the judges gave -3 across the board (which suggests they considered it to be a fall) but there was no one point deduction taken from the final score - is this the technical panel or the referee?

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   13.02.12 10:31

Pairs - Free Skating - Result Details

1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 135.08 75.54 59.54 7.46 7.04 7.79 7.46 7.46 0.00 #7
2 Caydee DENNEY / John COUGHLIN USA 122.07 62.82 59.25 7.43 7.00 7.57 7.46 7.57 0.00 #9
3 Mary Beth MARLEY / Rockne BRUBAKER USA 116.47 60.91 56.56 7.04 6.89 7.14 7.25 7.04 1.00 #10
4 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 114.23 62.27 52.96 6.71 6.50 6.54 6.71 6.64 1.00 #3
5 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Mervin TRAN JPN 109.57 55.32 55.25 6.93 6.86 6.71 7.14 6.89 1.00 #8
6 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG USA 107.24 54.30 53.94 6.82 6.64 6.61 6.93 6.71 1.00 #6
7 Paige LAWRENCE / Rudi SWIEGERS CAN 100.69 49.99 50.70 6.57 6.36 6.04 6.43 6.29 0.00 #5
8 Jessica DUBE / Sebastien WOLFE CAN 97.11 49.45 49.66 6.46 6.04 6.04 6.36 6.14 2.00 #4
9 Yue ZHANG / Lei WANG CHN 92.20 46.77 45.43 5.75 5.43 5.71 5.82 5.68 0.00 #2
10 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN 88.39 46.37 42.02 5.54 5.00 5.36 5.25 5.11 0.00 #1


Pairs - Overall Result

1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 201.83 1 1
2 Caydee DENNEY / John COUGHLIN USA 185.42 2 2
3 Mary Beth MARLEY / Rockne BRUBAKER USA 178.89 3 3
4 Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD CAN 171.76 8 4
5 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Mervin TRAN JPN 171.11 4 5
6 Amanda EVORA / Mark LADWIG USA 167.99 5 6
7 Paige LAWRENCE / Rudi SWIEGERS CAN 158.66 6 7
8 Jessica DUBE / Sebastien WOLFE CAN 154.79 7 8
9 Yue ZHANG / Lei WANG CHN 140.24 10 9
10 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN 137.91 9 10


Ice Dance - Free Dance - Result Details

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 111.24 54.07 57.17 9.46 9.32 9.71 9.61 9.71 0.00 #10
2 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA 107.25 50.01 57.24 9.54 9.36 9.68 9.61 9.64 0.00 #11
3 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 99.03 47.42 51.61 8.50 8.36 8.75 8.71 8.89 0.00 #8
4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 94.91 47.06 48.85 8.14 8.00 8.21 8.25 8.21 1.00 #9
5 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 79.27 40.72 39.55 6.61 6.43 6.54 6.75 6.75 1.00 #5
6 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 69.63 36.50 33.13 5.68 5.36 5.54 5.54 5.57 0.00 #7
7 Alexandra PAUL / Mitchell ISLAM CAN 69.45 33.07 37.38 6.29 6.11 6.11 6.36 6.36 1.00 #4
8 Anna NAGORNYUK / Viktor KOVALENKO UZB 67.68 38.07 30.61 5.18 4.93 5.21 5.18 5.11 1.00 #3
9 Danielle OBRIEN / Gregory MERRIMAN AUS 65.81 34.93 30.88 5.21 4.93 5.21 5.32 5.21 0.00 #6
10 Corenne BRUHNS / Ryan VAN NATTEN MEX 55.64 32.66 22.98 4.00 3.64 3.82 4.00 3.79 0.00 #1
11 Cortney MANSOUR / Daryn ZHUNUSSOV KAZ 53.13 30.43 22.70 3.96 3.46 3.86 4.04 3.79 0.00 #2

Ice Dance - Overall Result

1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 182.84 2 1
2 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA 179.40 1 2
3 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE CAN 163.26 3 3
4 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA 158.29 4 4
5 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 129.20 5 5
6 Alexandra PAUL / Mitchell ISLAM CAN 117.97 6 7
7 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 115.05 7 6
8 Anna NAGORNYUK / Viktor KOVALENKO UZB 107.61 9 8
9 Danielle OBRIEN / Gregory MERRIMAN AUS 105.91 8 9
10 Corenne BRUHNS / Ryan VAN NATTEN MEX 91.57 10 10
11 Cortney MANSOUR / Daryn ZHUNUSSOV KAZ 78.66 11

Interesting in the dance - I guess his makes V&M favourites for the World title next month.


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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   13.02.12 17:59

Everyone on twitter was really complaining about the dance results. I guess it was the best D/W had skated that program and they got way below their season's best score. IDK. I understand ice dance even less.
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   13.02.12 18:32

Irina....that pic you posted is priceless! It really tells it like it is. Laughing

Malgosia....thanks for the link to the Rosanno article. I wonder how it's possible to give a 3 point deduction, as though it's a fall, and yet not call it a fall and not give the 1 point deduction? Hmmmm.... something seems amiss, there.

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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   15.02.12 18:10

Thx Malgosia for pic and report and Irina - it's so so true!!!!!!!!!!!.Smile I was surprised that Chan's have no deduction. Everybody wish to had falls without dedctions LOL Twisted Evil I don't know why Chan's is treated so so so better then others??!!

Of course I like Tessa and Scott "funny face" but I'm disappointed about results in dance. I prefer Davis/White Free Dance !!! scratch

BTW Congrats to Mao Asada she made 3A in Short and Free of course judges saw that it was underrotated but it's better then degrade to 2A Smile Danseuse01

And of course Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN (CHN) made a throw quadruple Salchow (two-footed), a quadruple twist, and it's look very soft. clap
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PostSubject: Re: Four Continents Championship 2012   15.02.12 22:14

Irina, what a funny postcard... Razz lol! I think that's the point.
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