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Maybe the members who know German can create a new topic in the 'anything' section! How about every day we learn a new German word or phrase about figure skating?
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Yes , great idea Karen, and here it is!!!
I hope you will enjoy this and have a lot of fun


Ok, let's start with something basic:

Figure skating = Eiskunstlauf


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Thank you Nina
Are the jumps called anything different?
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Only one thing a day Katya

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Ok, I think it's my turn today!

There is only one jump that has a different name in German:

Loop = Rittberger

The rest of the jumps is called the same as in English.

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This thread looks like fun as I've known almost no vocabulary connected with figure skating before, although I've been learning German for 3 years. Can't wait to learn another new word.

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hmmm a triple rittberger, interesting. Thanks!!
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The number of rotations also has a different name in German!
So at first there is:

double = doppel


For example:

double axel = Doppel Axel

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Thank you Nina, I am enjoying this!
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Thanks, Nina and Maike!
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Danke!!!

What about "toe"? As in a "toe loop" jump, or the toe pick on a blade?

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Well, "toe" = "Zehe" in German, but when we use this concerning figure skating, we also say "toeloop"

I hope I could answer your question Karen

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Yes, I understand. Thanks

Back to "Rittberger" ... is that a word or a name in German? Is the jump named after a skater named 'Rittberger', do you know? Similar to Axel (Paulson) and (Ullrich) Salchow?

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The words for jumps are similar in French -- even in Japanese! One hears "triple flip", "triple axel", 'salchow', 'lutz', etc. during commentary on French TV. Only the loop is different: "boucle" (ring or loop).

Remember: you cannot answer until July 5th! :

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Ok Karen, because this is no German - English vocabulary, I will answer your question
I must confess that I also didn't know where the "Rittberger" has it's roots , but I found it on the internet:

The jump is named after the German inventor "Werner Rittberger" in 1910. He was 11 times national champion (!!!) and 3 times vice world champion (1910-1912)

I think we all (including the Germans ) have learned something new today!

Nina

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I, too have been having fun learning German Figure skating words. I only speak English so this is a chance for me to learn something new. I will be able to spell all the words....but pronoucing them may be a different matter all together!!!LOL

So a special thanks to Nina and Maike for doing this for us!
Nina, thanks for the additional info on the origins of Rittberger.

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Thank you all!!!

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Interesting! That was also the same time the Salchow jump was invented and skater Ullrich Salchow of Sweden was dominant during that era. Maybe that is why Rittberger finished second place at those World Championships (and why his name isn't known worldwide today, like the others ).

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That is a shame, the jump should be called the rittberger then
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Yesterday Nina started with the names for the number of rotations, so I'll continue today:

triple = dreifach

For example: "triple loop" = "dreifacher Rittberger"

Maike (who is glad that you enjoy learning German words )

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This is very interesting.

What would the long program and short program be called in German?

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So, last but not least here is the final rotation:

quadruple = vierfach

For example:
quadruple toeloop = vierfacher Toeloop

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Ok, Margaret we will continue tomorrow with the programs!
BTW, all of you can ask everything you want to know!!!


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I see that Ina Bauer was a German skater, too!

ks.essortment.com/figures...t_rlrg.htm

www.jacksonskates.com/pho...or-9c.html

www.jacksonskates.com/pho...ot-38.html


And a good photo of Shizuka Arakawa doing an Ina Bauer move

www.asianathlete.com/DaSc...px?ID=2350

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Thank you for the links, Karen!

As promised, we continue with the programs:

"short program" = "Kurzprogramm" (short = kurz, program = Programm)

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Thanks for the links Karen
I didn't know that!

Shizuka Arakawa looks

Nina

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YAY, Ina Bauers!! I love them!!
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Ok, here is the next:

long program = Kür


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How would you pronounce the ü in English? Like yoo?
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I can't think of an English word with an ü, but it is pronounced like the "ue" in the French word "rue" (street)

Hope I have answered your question Katya

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Nina, although I'm not a specialist (you know my German is far from perfect), but I think that I can try to explain this pronounciation another way: ü is pronounced like "u" in English word "nurse". I hope I haven't confused the non-German-speaking people .

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Gosia, you know that I think your German is good , but the "u" in "nurse" IMO is not pronounced like "ü"!

Nina


(Maike, was meinst du? Also falls ich mich jetzt nicht total irre , dann dürfte das doch nicht stimmen...? Vielleicht fällt dir ja noch was besseres ein! Übrigens, du bist dran mit dem nächsten Wort ; eigentlich ja schon heute )

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Ok, we continue with the next word: We already talked about the different jumps, but you don't know, what's the German word for jump!

jump = Sprung

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(Du hast Recht, Nina, das passt von der Aussprache her nicht! Aber mir fällt leider auch keine bessere Erklärung ein. )

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Does the letter 'u' with the two dots (umlaf?) sound like the word 'uber'? Many people know the word 'uber' . oooooooooooooooooo Or like the word 'true'?

I like the word 'sprung' . It reminds me of the German word for the sport of ski jumping -- 'skispringen' ? That's the best way to phrase that sport because that is exactly what the skiers are doing . Spriiiiiiiiinnnnnggg!!!!

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The word "Skispringen" sounds so cool!

Thanks for the lessons, ladies!

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This thread is such a great idea!

With all the talk about jumps, what is the German word for splat?

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LOL Mary ... now that is one I don't know!

I'm sorry Nina and Maike to cause such a confusion!
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Yes Katya you're right, I'm a little bit confused now, but it's no problem

Karen do you mean the German word “über”???
No, it’s not in the word “true”!
But hey, “Skispringen” was right!!!!

Like I've said, most you can find the “ü” in the French language, like in “rue”, “menu”…

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And now the lesson for today :

spin = Pirouette

For example:
Bielmann spin = Bielmann Pirouette

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What would straight line footwork be in German?

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Maybe we should learn 'footwork' first, then the various types of footwork (straight line, serpentine, circular, Yagudin-like ).

The word for spin in French is also 'pirouette'. I remember a commentator on French TV going over Johnny Weir's "belles pirouettes...oh la la ".

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Mary!

Karen, I liked how you included "Yagudin-like" as a category of footwork!

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Karen, "Yagudin-like" as an own category is a great idea!

So, we start with the first lesson about footwork:

In general "footwork" is translated as "Beinarbeit", but if you use it in connection with figure skating you translate it this way:

"footwork" = "Schrittfolge"

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Karen, "Yagudin-like"


Ok, now I will begin with the various types of footwork:

"straight line footwork" = "Längsschrittfolge"


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There is only one jump that has a different name in German:

Loop = Rittberger

The rest of the jumps is called the same as in English.

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Well, then Russians already have known German names of jumps, as in Russian loop is called Rittberger too

How would the original dance, the rink, the skates, blades and edges be called in German?

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Hey, that's cool Rosinka
We will reply to your other questions in the next days, but first we have to continue with the various types of footwork!

So, today it should be Maike's turn

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Yes, today it's my turn!

"circular footwork" = "Kreisschrittfolge"

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I need to say that word VERY slowly. Otherwise, it would sound profane

BTW, some people at other skating forums refer to Stefan Lindemann as "Lime tree man" . Is that what 'lindemann' literally is in German?

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Yes, I can understand this! You have to separate the word like that: Kreis schritt folge, to say it properly!


Lindemann as "lime tree man" , I've never heard that!!!
But yeah, "Linde" is a tree in Germany, and after looking the word up in the dictionary, I saw that it's indeed "lime tree"! Hahaha

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lime tree ... interesting. But I suppose his name could translate to something far worse
This will all come in very handy one day if I ever get to see a German skating telecast .. thank you again ladies!
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Here is the next:

"serpentine footwork" = "Serpentinenschrittfolge"

I think you will have more problems with this Karen

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So serpentine is the same in german and english, wow!

edited because I can't spell
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Ok, now I continue with one of Rosinka's questions :

"skates" = "Schlittschuhe"

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Is that 'skates' as in what you wear (noun) or 'skates' as in what you do (verb)??

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P.S. Thanks for this thread - it is interesting!

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It is the noun, sorry

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Thanks Nina - no need to apologise!

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Here is the next lesson (answering one of Rosinka's questions, too):

"blades" = "Kufen"

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How say you Pirouette arabesque (Camel spin)?
Excellente idéa Nina and Maike



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Nina and Maike - can I add a question? I'd like to know the German word for qualification round and combination.
Thanks in advance, girls

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Thank you ladies for showing interest We will answer all your questions soon...

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Here is the next:

"original dance" = "Originaltanz"

I think this is a simple one!?

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LOL yes that one is simple, I have no trouble pronouncing that!

Thank you both again for doing this!
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Ok, this is the next word:

"edge" = "Kante"

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Thanks, in the next few days will you tell us inside, outside and change of? Also, how would you say code of points?
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Also, titles such as "national figure skating team of Germany" (the German skaters who compete at international competitions) and the name of the German skating federation.

Bitte

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Aww, that's so sweet!


Since the last word was "edge" = "Kante", I think it is the best to continue with Katya's questions!
Then we will go on with Gislaine's, Gosia's and Karen's...


So, Katya's first one:

"inside edge" - "Innenkante"


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Karen, I agree with Nina, that's really sweet from you!!!

Well, I think you won't be surprised by the next word! (After "inside edge"... )

"outside edge" = "Außenkante"

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I was wondering what that letter in the middle of that word is, the one that looks similar to a "B"??

Thanks again ladies!
(Whew! Some of those words look really hard to pronounce! )

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Ok Heidi, I try to explain!


The "ß" is a sharp "s".....so, it is a mixture between "s" and "z"


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Can you think of an english word that would sound like it? It's funny because when I first saw the letter my mind went to Russian
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Mmhh, at the moment I don't have an idea , but I'll try to find a word!

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Maike, meinst du ich hab das "ß" richtig erklärt??? Bzw. weißt du ein englisches Wort??
Hab, wie du weißt, im Moment nämlich echt keine Zeit mir darüber auch noch den Kopf zu zerbrechen...


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I checked the phonetic alphabet in my dictionary and the symbol for "ß" is "[s]".
The English example for "[s]" was the "s" in the word "yes".
I think that's a good example, you pronounce the "ß" this way!

I hope you understand my explanation.

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Danke
Gut, dass ich das nicht auch noch machen musste
Ach und übrigens, du hast es meiner Meinung nach sehr sehr gut erklärt - kein Grund rot zu werden, hihi

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Thank you for the explanation, ladies! That makes sense.

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Katya!
Oups, I totally forgot to add a new word yesterday , so here it is:


"change of edge" - "Kantenwechsel"
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This is the word for today:

"Code of points" = "Wertungsvorschriften"

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Wertungsvorschriften ... that is a mouthfull. I had expected it to be a phrase, not a word. Thanks!
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Yes, in German there are often single words combined to such long words! Sorry...

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Is that pronounced like "kahn-ten-veksel" or "kahn-ten-veh-shell" ? How does one pronounce the "chs" combination in German?

Not surprised about the Code of Points. Isn't the longest word in a language that uses the Roman alphabet a German word? About 36 letters? (Although Welsh has some long words, too )

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It is pronounced like your first suggestion "kahn-ten-veksel"

(It would be "kahn-ten-veh-shell" if there were "sch" in the middle of the word)

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Today I continue with Gislaine's question:

Camel spin/Pirouette arabesque - Waagepirouette


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Ok, I answer to one of Gosia's questions! I think it's a simple lesson:

"combination" = "Kombination"

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Yeah, this one is pretty easy, Maike. Thanks for answering, anyway

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And here is the second of Gosia's:

"qualification round" - "Qualifikationsrunde"

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Mmh, I think Maike has forgotten that her turn was supposed to be today .... ok, then I will do the lesson

It's one of Karen's questions:

"German skating federation" - "Deutsche Eislauf-Union" (deu)

If anyone is interested, here is the site:
www.eislauf-union.de/

Well,...maybe you can take a look at the photos...

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Oops, I have forgotten my turn! This day was really chaotic!!!
Thank you Nina for doing the lesson! I will continue tomorrow, but now I have to go to bed!

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That makes sense. Thanks. We can understand some of the web site now that you have taught us a few words .

And don't worry, Maike. You are not getting paid for this work , so if you miss a day no one will to you .

Sleep well

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Hey Maike, hab jetzt erst schon gedacht du wärst böse, weil ich das gemacht habe, aber anscheined ja nicht! Was war denn heute so chaotisch? Ich hab heute mal wieder nichts außer Kostenrechnung gemacht *grummel*
Du kannst ja dafür morgen und übermorgen ne lesson machen
Wünsch dir auch noch nen schönen Schlaf (juhuu, jetzt konntest du endlich mal das Kaffee-emoticon verwenden )

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Ditto . (Whatever Nina wrote )

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Haha, that's a funny question , but it's not that easy to explain!

It's a expression that is used when a person is angry or irritated about something!
It's maybe similar if someone says "grrrrr"
My dictionary says it's something like "rumble" or "mumble", mmh...I don't know

I see that we don't have an emoticon that shows exactly what I mean, but maybe this is the most appropriate

As I've said, it's difficult to explain...

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Karen!!!

Oh, it's really difficult to explain *grummel*!!! Normally I use it when I have to do something I don't like to do (like learning for an exam). Nina used it in this context, too.
I hope you can imagine what *grummel* means!


Ok, now I do my lesson for today! It's one of the things Karen wanted to know:

"national figure skating team of Germany" = "Deutsche Eiskunstlauf-Nationalmannschaft"


Maike



Ach übrigens, Nina, ist schon in Ordnung, dass du meine lesson übernommen hast. Ich würde sagen wir wechseln uns einfach weiter ab. Sonst komm ich nur durcheinander! D.h. morgen bist du wieder dran (und ich dann am Freitag!).
Bin übrigens auch ganz begeistert, dass ich endlich mal das Kaffee-emoticon nehmen konnte!


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Mmh, it seems that there are no new questions , so, I think it might be useful to have a list with the whole vocabulary!

A clear structure is better for learning…



Figure skating = Eiskunstlauf

Loop = Rittberger
(The rest of the jumps is called the same as in English!)

double = doppel

triple = dreifach

quadruple = vierfach

short program = Kurzprogramm

long program = Kür

jump = Sprung

spin = Pirouette

footwork = Schrittfolge

straight line footwork = Längsschrittfolge

circular footwork = Kreisschrittfolge

serpentine footwork = Serpentinenschrittfolge

skates = Schlittschuhe
(the noun)

blades = Kufen

original dance = Originaltanz

edge = Kante

inside edge = Innenkante

outside edge = Außenkante

change of edge = Kantenwechsel

Code of points = Wertungsvorschriften

Camel spin/Pirouette arabesque = Waagepirouette

combination = Kombination

qualification round = Qualifikationsrunde

German skating federation = Deutsche Eislauf-Union (deu) www.eislauf-union.de/

national figure skating team of Germany = Deutsche Eiskunstlauf-Nationalmannschaft

pairs = Paarlauf

men = (Eiskunstlauf der) Herren

ladies = (Eiskuntslauf der) Damen

skater = Eiskunstläufer

coach = Trainer

ice rink = Eisbahn

"on the ice, from France -- Brian Joubert" = "auf dem Eis, aus Frankreich -- Brian Joubert"

gold medal = Goldmedaille

silver medal = Silbermedaille



And now, please continue to ask questions!!!

Nina

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Thanks for the summary!

Did we discuss the names of the various disciplines? We know ice dancing = eistanzen . What about men, ladies and pairs?

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No, we didn't! Good idea Karen

"pairs" = "Paarlauf"


I think I will add every new word to the list above!

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   15.06.06 15:15

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Ok, I continue with the disciplines:

"men" = "(Eiskunstlauf der) Herren"

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Might it be a good idea to have the list of vocabulary at the top of this thread, or in its own thread??

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Yes Sheena, that's a good idea but I don't know how to put it at the top of the thread

The lesson for today:

ladies = (Eiskunstlauf der) Damen

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Nina, you have the first post in the thread, so just edit your first post and put the list in there.
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Ok, today I answer to one of Katya's questions:

"skater" = "Eiskunstläufer"

Maike (who uses Nina's computer )

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I hope that Nina & Maike are having an enjoyable time together!?

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I worry that Nina and Maike will have TOO much fun together .

Don't spend ALL of your time watching skating videos, 'damen' .

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Oh yes, we are having a lot of fun!!!!!
I don't know how many hours we already spent with watching skating videos...

BTW, Nina looks like this at the moment: ...and me, too

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YAY, we have a great time!
Thanks again for all the videos Karen
Maike is trying to teach me in juggling, mmh...she says I'm not that bad...but I don't know

One of Katya's questions:

coach = Trainer/Trainerin (male/female)

Nina

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At competitions in Germany (as well as Austria and Switzerland), how does the announcer on the microphone introduce the skaters? For example, at Worlds in Dortmund, how did they say "on the ice, from France -- Brian Joubert". ?

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Ok, here is the next word (the last of Katya's questions):

"ice rink" = "Eisbahn"

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Ok, here is the answer to Karen's question:

"on the ice, from France -- Brian Joubert" = "auf dem Eis, aus Frankreich -- Brian Joubert"



Nina

No new questions?

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Ok, I have a question which isn't only related to skating:
how would we call gold, silver and bronze medal and a fall?

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And did we already discuss simple moves, like forward, backward, gliding and crossovers?

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New questions!!!

The lesson for today:

"gold medal" = "Goldmedaille"


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Thanks for the new questions! I really enjoy doing this...

Here is the next:

"silver medal" = "Silbermedaille"

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My question concerns exhibition gala and world championships. How to say it in German?

Nina, you are a very patient teacher

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Let's continue with the last medal:

"bronze medal" = "Bronzemedaille"

Maike (who is back home and sad because her time with Nina is over )


BTW, danke für die schöne Woche, Nina! War echt super!!! HDL!

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Ich fands auch total super und vermisse dich sooooooo sehr - ohne Witz
Jetzt hab ich keinen mehr hier, der die Freude vom Eislaufen (und von Brian natürlich) mit mir teilen kann UND es ist keiner hier, der das von dem Tänzer weiß und mich deswegen bemitleiden und knuddeln kann....

Du bist in der kurzen Zeit echt schon ne super Freundin für mich geworden!

Kurz gesagt: DU FEHLST MIR TOTAL!!!

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Nina!!!

Du fehlst mir auch! Wer schaut jetzt mit mir Videos, spult manche Szenen x-mal zurück, rastet dabei genauso aus wie ich und dreht vollkommen durch wenn es was Tolles über Brian gibt?
Zum Glück gibt es Telefone, Handys, Internet, ...
Ach, und wegen dem Tänzer, ich werde dich auch weiterhin bemitleiden! Und das Knuddeln, tja, das musst du dir dann einfach vorstellen.

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Ok, here is the last of Gosia's questions:

"fall" = "Sturz"

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Mmh, I don't know if I should answer in English or in German , but I think I will do both!

Yes, we met on this forum and are very happy about that!!!
Maike lives in the south of Germany, in Bavaria and I live in the middle, in Hessian. So, it's not that far...

Ja, wir haben uns auf diesem Forum getroffen und sind sehr glücklich darüber!!!
Maike wohnt im Süden Deutschlands, in Bayern und ich wohne in der Mitte, in Hessen. Es ist also nicht so weit...

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Das ist nicht so schlecht, Nina; als Maike hat geschrieben - gibt es doch Handys, Internet u.s.w. ... Und ihr fahrt nach Lyon zusammen, habe ich Recht?

OK can I add one more question? What's the German word for podium?

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Ja Gosia, du hast Recht!
Und wie ich schon immer gesagt habe: Dein Deutsch ist echt gut !

Ah, and thanks for the new questions!!!

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Katya and Gosia!!!
And, Gosia, thank you for adding a new question!

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Ok, we were working on spins .. so what is a scratch spin and a sit spin and what do you call the special spins some skaters do, like the cannonball, mushroom, Evgeny's "bagel" ... oh and is a bielman called the same thing or something different?

jene fragen werden sie besetzt seit einer kurzen zeit halten! LOL
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Oh yes, I love the internet, too!!!

Thanks for the new questions, Katya! Danke!!!


Today, I continue with one of Karen's questions:

"forward" = "vorwärts"


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Oh yes, I hope we don't forget any...

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Next lesson:

"backward" = "rückwärts"

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Ok, here is the next word:

"gliding" = "Gleiten"

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Thanks again ladies ... I think I am going to search for a site like Olga found, to describe the proper pronunciation of the German letters. That would help all of us!
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Good idea Katya!

I found this link:
www.bbc.co.uk/languages/g...ndex.shtml

It's from the same page Olga has found!

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Here is the German pronunciation:

www.bbc.co.uk/languages/g...age_notes/

There you can listen to the German sounds for example and you can also hear how ä,ö,ü are pronounced!

Nina

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Ok, today I continue with one of Malgosia's questions:

"world championships" = "Weltmeisterschaft"

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Here is the answer to Malgosia's second question:

"exhibition gala" = "Schaulaufen" (or "Gala" )

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I have more questions - how would we call combination, program, choreographer and coach in German? I'm also wondering how's kiss'n'cry called in German.

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Thanks for the new questions Gosia , but we already had "combination" and "coach"

This one was a question from you, too:

"podium" = "Podest"

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Yes, now I noticed that , sorry. And thanks for answering that question

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I noticed that we forgot to answer to one of Karen's questions (about simple moves) ! So it will be our lesson for today!

"crossovers" = "Übersetzen"

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Danke herren

I will be doing "ubersetzen" at the "eisbahn" this week -- both "vorwarts" and "ruckwarts" (sorry for any misspellings and lack of accents ).

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Karen!
But you have learnt a lot already!!!

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That's great!!!

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Today I continue with one of Katya's questions:

sit spin = Sitzpirouette


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I have a question that is not skating related. In english we have the same word for orange the fruit and orange the color. It is the same way in French. What about German?
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The next lesson:

"scratch spin" = "Standpirouette"

Maike


Edited because I can't spell my own name

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Hahahahaha

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Here is the next:

bagel = Ring


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I just wanted to say that Nina has to do the lessons for the next 8 days alone. I will go on vacation tomorrow!

See you next week!

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Have a lovely holidays, Maike!

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Maike, ich wünsche dir eine super tolle Woche in Paris ! Ich beneide dich echt!!! Vielleicht siehst du Brian ja wirklich, hihi . Na ja, wie gesagt, hab viel Spaß, entspanne dich UND denk an die Postkarte, die sms und daran mich anzurufen

*Kuss* *Schmatz* *Bussi*

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Well done to Nina!

And happy holidays to Maike & Gosia!

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Mmh, I thought that "Biellmann" would be the same in English and German, but you wrote "Bielman"
Was that a spelling mistake or is it the normal way to write her name in English?

Biellmann spin = Biellmann Pirouette

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How does one say "congratulations" in German?

As for Biellmann, I would think however Denise, the World Champion from Switzerland, spells her own name would be the correct spelling -- no matter what the language. We hear the name often, but we don't see the spelling of the name often .

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Ok, thanks Karen!

I will edit it immediately!

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Mmh Katya, I don't know if there's a german translation for "cannonball"! Maybe it's the same...

And honestly, I don't no at all what a "mushroom" might be!


So, I will answer to one of Gosia's questions today. I think it's a simple one :

program = Programm

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The lesson for today :

choreographer = Choreograf/Choreografin (male/female)

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Gosia, I think there isn't a German translation for "kiss'n'cry" I have never heard of one, we also say "kiss'n'cry".

And yes Katya, in German it's the same with "orange". We use it for the fruit and the color!


So today, I will continue with Karen's general question:

congratulation = Gratulation/Glückwunsch

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I thought so, Nina, as we don't have a Polish word for kiss'n'cry either. Anyway, thanks for the answers.

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I noticed that I forgot to answer to Gislaine's question!
Gis, I think with "Hello, how go you?" you meant "Hello, how are you?"

Hello, how are you? = Hallo, wie geht es dir/Ihnen?

"dir" is more personal (often used towards young people), and "Ihnen" is more polite (often used towards adults).


No new questions???

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Look how long this thread is -- 9 pages so far!! After so many questions and answers, we should all be fluent in 'Deutsch' by now .

I asked about numbers in Russian. Let me see how many numbers I remember in German:

1 = ein
2 = zwei
3 = drei
4 = fier
5 = funf
6 = sechs
7 = sieben
8 =
9 = (similar to nine, but I can't think of the correct spelling )

: I even remember listening to the judges scores at Bofrost Cup (Nation's Cup) a few years ago -- "funf fier, funf zwei, funf drei, funf funf ... .

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Karen, you remember quite a lot!

I'll complete the list of numbers:

1 = eins
2 = zwei
3 = drei
4 = vier
5 = fünf
6 = sechs
7 = sieben
8 = acht
9 = neun
10 = zehn


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Yes, you should!
Maybe it's the best if I'll start a new thread soon...

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Since there are no new questions, I'll continue with some general words!

Good day! = Guten Tag!

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Guten tag (or 'guten abend' for evening, no?) Wie geht es dir?

How do you say "my name is"?

Karen (ich bin ein...amerikan? )



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Yes, Guten Abend is right!

Mir geht es gut und dir?
Du bist eine Amerikanerin.

Mein Name ist Nina

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Here is the next:

Good morning = Guten Morgen

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Is the word "good" always 'guten'?

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No, it's not!
Normally "good" is "gut", but we also have: guter, gute, gutes..., because we differ between masculine, feminine and neuter.
You should know what I mean from French, with the exception that we have a neuter form, too.

Here are a few examples:

That's good! = Das ist gut!
good joke = guter Witz
good story = gute Geschichte
good weather = gutes Wetter

Here is a link with an explanation and a few more examples:
www.bbc.co.uk/languages/g.../the.shtml

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(who hopes that this wasn't too confusing... )

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German has 'neuter' words, too?

That is not gut/guter/gute/gutes .

How do you say "have a good day" or "have a nice day"?

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And please continue with the greetings. How would you say Good Evening and Goodnight?
Also, how would you ask how much something costs, and how would you ask for directions, to the arena for instance?

So, Russian is the only one of the languages we are doing here that has a different word for the fruit and the color? Interesting.
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Ok, here are the last two greetings:

Good evening = Guten Abend
Goodnight = Gute Nacht

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Hi everybody, I'm back home!!!

So I can do the next lesson . It's the answer to Karen's question:

Have a good/nice day = Ich wünsche dir einen schönen Tag!


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Welcome back Maike!

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Wir haben uns ja gestern eigentlich schon lange genug über so ziemlich ALLES unterhalten, aber ich knutsch dich trotzdem!

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   15.06.06 15:18

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Welcome back Maike
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Thank you ladies!!!

Nina told me I should do the next few German words. Well, here is one of them:

"How much does ... cost?" = "Was kostet ... ?"

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That's an easy one, thanks Maike!
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Ok, Katya's next question was how one would ask for directions. I think I will need a few lessons for that.
Let's start with a simple question that always can be used:

"Where is ...?" = "Wo ist ...?"

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If you ask someone you don't know (and adult) and you want to be polite, you can use this one:

"Entschuldigung. Können Sie mir bitte den Weg nach/zum/zur ... erklären?"
(= "Excuse me. Can you tell me the way to ... , please?")

Well, the translation of "to" is a bit difficult. "nach" is used for cities, "zum" for masculine words and "zur" for feminine words. I hope this is not too confusing.


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"Where is" is a lot easier! LOL
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Katya!

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Katya!!! But you are right!

I think I should start with the directions now.

"on the right" = "rechts"
"to the right" = "nach rechts"

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Here is the next lesson:

"on the left" = "links"
"to the left" = "nach links"

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Those aren't too difficult either, thanks Maike
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Nina & Maike - thank you for adding a wide range of usefull expressions, which makes me get the feeling that I've learnt quite a lot of basic German expressions at school lol.

Also - gute Nacht

Gosia (back from my holidays, I missed you all!)

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back Gosia! Nice to see you!

Ich wünsche dir auch eine gute Nacht

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Gosia! Welcome back!!!


Here is the last "direction-lesson":

"straight on" = "geradeaus"


Do you have any new questions???

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Ok, I'll teach you another useful phrase:

"Where do you live?" = "Wo wohnst du?" / "Wo wohnen Sie?"

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And here is the answer to the question above:

"I live in ..." = "Ich wohne in ..."

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Today, I continue with the days of the week:

Monday = Montag
Tuesday = Dienstag
Wednesday = Mittwoch
Thursday = Donnerstag
Friday = Freitag
Saturday = Samstag
Sunday = Sonntag

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New thread - new questions?

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Good idea Nina
For skating words, have we done Grand Prix and warm-up?

In non-skating words, how about the months of the year and asking someone their age, and about their families?
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A new thread was a good idea, Nina! And thanks for the new questions, Katya!!!

I think we should start with the figure skating words:

"Grand Prix" is the same word in German!
And the German word for Grand Prix Final is very similar to the English word:

"Grand Prix Final" = "Grand Prix Finale"

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Ok, here are the months of the year:

January = Januar
February = Februar
March = März
April = April
May = Mai
June = Juni
July = Juli
August = August
September = September
October = Oktober
November = November
December = Dezember

I think those aren't too difficult

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The next lesson is about asking someone his/her age:

"How old are you?" = "Wie alt bist du?"

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These are not that difficult at all. I am going to add another question .. when is your birthday, and also how would you say Happy Birthday?
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On AIM, we discussed the conjugation! We have any group of verbs and in German?

The verbs of the first group as, to sing, to Look, lol, for the second group the verbs ir, to finish, to furnish, to differentiate them with the 3rd (it is necessary to say itself issant! Lol)

The 3rd group, dre, as learn(teach), to sell, ir to leave, for OIR to receive..

And finally both auxillaires to BE and to Have!!

sur AIM , nous avons discuté sur la conjugaison, !
Nous avons plusieurs groupe de verbes et en allemand?

les verbes du premier groupe comme , chanter , Chercher, lol, le deuxième groupe les verbes en ir , finir , garnir , pour les différencier avec le 3e ( il faut se dire issant!lol)

le 3e groupe , dre , comme apprendre , vendre, ir partir, en OIR recevoir..

et enfin les deux auxillaires ETRE et Avoir!!
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Another one of Katya's:

"warm-up" = "aufwärmen"

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Hm, one of Katya's questions was how to ask someone about his/her family You could ask this for example :

"Do you have brothers and sisters?" = "Hast du Geschwister?"

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"When is your birthday?" = "Wann hast du Geburtstag?" / "Wann haben Sie Geburtstag?"

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= "Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!"

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Maike, how would that translate literally? I just find it interesting that there are 4 words
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There's also often used:

"Herzlichen Glückwunsch (zum Geburtstag)"

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Sincere congratulations? Is that right?
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Yes, that's right, Katya!

Hmm , the literal translation of "Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!" would be something like "All the best to birthday!"
"All the best!" = "Alles Gute!"
"Birthday" = "Geburtstag"

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Are there any new questions?

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Ok Maike, that's what I thought it was .. but it didn't make sense to me so I asked. Thank you!

I will try to think of some new questions ladies.
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Ok, I have a question for everyone who has german as native language. I have read German in school for some years now and I find the der,die,das part quite difficult, I never remember if a word is der,die or das and since that is quite important it is kind of annoying. My question to you is: Do you who have German as native language also have to learn if a word is der, die or das or is it obvious to you which one it is?

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Hm, I'd say it is quite obvious to us. We grew up with it. I can understand that this must be very difficult for German learners.
It's the same with French, Spanish etc. There you also have to distinguish between the different articles. I think you simply have to learn them. I'm sorry I couldn't help you more.

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Ok, sounds like I'll just have to keep rehearsing them then...sigh. Or I could go for the "mumbling-technice" where you just mumble the articles and let the German hear what he/she wants to hear Thanks for the help, it's nice that there are people out there who are willing to answer my stupid little questions. I might ask something more as the national German exams are coming up

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I couldn't learn all these articles so I gave up on German but I think that I'll start again!
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Hey there are no stupid questions!!! I'll be glad to help you!
That mumbling-technique is no bad idea. Btw, many foreigners who live in Germany choose the wrong articles while speaking. I'd say we are already used to words like "die Kind" etc. LOL

Yes Marizaki, start again!!

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Since you've been so nice to me and said that you'll be glad to help me, I'm going to ask you something more. If I want to say something like:
"When Markus has gone, Nicola runs to her grandfather und there she cuts her hair off, because her hair was something Markus loved."

Hmm, it was hard to translate it to English as well but something along those lines, can I write that:

"Als Markus gegangen ist, rennt Nicola zu ihrem Opa und da scneidet sie sich das Haar ab, weil Markus ihr Haar so sehr geliebt hat." in German?

The national exams in German are finally over, well most of them anyway, I still have to do Sprechen but if I just stay with my mumbling I think I'll pass And I do know that it is das Kind But I was really surprised when I discovered that it is der BH Makes no sense to me, I thought such a feminine thing would be die...

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I've never thought about that but you are right, it makes no sense.

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Thank you
I am pretty sure that the missing h just was a typing mistake but I am glad that you pointed that out becuase I tend to have problems with the h:es (for example in Bahnhof, I want to write it Bhanhof). My main concern though is that I will build the sentences wrong and make my German sound very Swedish.
Thanks again for taking your time to help me, I appreciate it

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You're welcome!
Your German is very good!

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Ok, I've just found out that I got MVG (A) in all the national exams and I just felt that I had to brag about it I have really started to like the German language. At first I thought it was kind of rough but as I have learnt more and more I have come to see the beauty of the language. And living in Sweden it is kind of good knowing it. In the summer it comes a lot of German tourists, so next year I am going to show my awsome ( )German skills when I am searching for a summer job.

Well, I'm not writing just to brag, I also have a question for you Nina (I must be such a pain in the ass asking all these questions). Anyway, my teacher says that you almost do not use the double s (can't write the sign) anymore, is that correct? And another thing, a German person I spoke to told me that the Swedes he had spoken to (who had learned the language in Swedish schools) spoke like you Germans did in the 50's ! Do you know anything about that? Becuase I don't want to make a fool out of myself and sound like I'm from the 50's if I talk to some Germans in the summer!

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At first, I am very happy for you!! Well done!!

You mean the ß? Yes, we use it less. For example, it is no longer daß but dass. Or we use müssen, instead of müßen. But it's not that bad if you do it wrong. There are a lot Germans who are not sure themselves. Especially older people are confused, lol.
I really can't answer your other question. I've never spoken to Swedes, so I don't know. Hm, how did Germans speak in the 50's??

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Thank you!

Ok, that sounds good, if a lot of Germans are confused themselves, they might not laugh at me if I make mistakes It's probably the same in many laguages, here older people are shocked that you are almost allowed to say dålig, dåligare, dåligast instead of dålig, sämre, sämst (bad, worse, worst). They're so conservative Well, I don't know how the Germans spoke in the 50's, but this person told me that the Swedes he had spoken to sounded quite old fashioned, and I think it would be quite embarrasing if I used some "slang" from the 50's talking to Germans my own age! You never know, my teacher is about 60 years old and when she tried to translate some German "slang" we read in a text, she used old Swedish words that I NEVER would use! Not even if someone paid me to

And thanks for answering my questions (again ) I do appreciate it!

Anja

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   16.04.07 14:24

Waaaah, how come I haven't detected this thread??

Vielen Dank, Ninchen!
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   30.09.07 12:28

Danke schön!!!
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   30.09.07 12:47

Yi wrote:
Danke schön!!!

Yi , Willkommen auf BJDG, n ' zögert nicht, in verschieden Diskussion teilzunehmen aber die .LOL auf Englisch oder auf Französisch ist. Wink Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   30.09.07 13:47

welcome Yi! (don't remember anyone else making their first post in our languages section before!!)

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   30.09.07 19:19

A very warm welcome Yi!! Coucou30
I got your message and will answer you later Wink
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   01.10.07 18:50

Wow!!! Thank you for your greeting!
I'm not so good at English.
And I hope you can understand my words.
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   01.10.07 18:58

Yi ,I understand perfectly what you write, I am not either strong in English. Do not hesitate to participate in the diverse discussions, if you need helps our German friends will be present to help you, Nina, Maike hugs ...

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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   01.10.07 21:58

Of course we will help! Wink
Welcome to the BJDG, Yi!!! :waving20:
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   27.10.08 15:21

In this year we're learning German at the school. Until now we learn how are you, who are you, what is your name, where are you from etc. and their anwers and the numbers from 0 to 20 Very Happy Very Happy
Our teacher is a little bit stange Very Happy Sometimes he is funny but sometimes he makes me nervous Very Happy And fortunately I have a friend who is study at German High School, so she always anwers my questions clearly Very Happy And of course I'll ask you some quesiton, I think ange
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   07.11.08 14:54

Well, I have a question... How do you say 'what is your name' in German?
"Wie ist dein Name?" or "Was ist dein Name?"
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   07.11.08 15:11

Sui-chan wrote:
Well, I have a question... How do you say 'what is your name' in German?
"Wie ist dein Name?" or "Was ist dein Name?"

It's "Wie heißt du?"(informal)/"Wie heißen Sie?"(formal) !! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   07.11.08 15:35

Very Happy Thank you Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: German words about figure skating   07.11.08 15:36

You're welcome sunny
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