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PostSubject: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 14:26

If you want to know something in finnish, ask here! Smile

figure skating: taitoluistelu
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 14:42

Thanks for this topic, Katie!

We will probably need it next year! (Euros in Helsinki... :naughty15kz:)
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 14:50

Titanilla wrote:
Thanks for this topic, Katie!

We will probably need it next year! (Euros in Helsinki... :naughty15kz:)

Thanks a lot Katie bisousfleurs
Yes, maybe i will need this next year, too! :naughty15kz:
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 15:09

:skatesmile2: well, then I will be answering here next year for sure! Wink I will go to Euros too! Can't wait!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 15:12

Actually I watched the Olympics SPs on a Finnish webtv and I learnt "kolmo axel" - it is triple axel, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 15:43

Very good idea of opening a subject,Katie, it can help members who will want d ' to go to Euro in Finland.. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   12.02.08 17:08

Thank you all! Nice that you consider this topic a good idea.

Yes, you are right Titanilla. It means triple axel and the right way to write and pronounce it in finnish is 'kolmoisakseli'. I love you

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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   16.02.08 17:41

thanks for opening this topic, katie hugs
and....how about telling us some of the pronounciation rules? i think it's one of the most important things when you want to learn a new language...
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   17.02.08 17:38

It is not easy to explain how to pronounce finnish. In Finnish, consonants and vowels are almost always pronounced in the same way, and the neighbouring sounds do not affect the way how, for example, the sound of the letter "S" or "T" is pronounced in words. The best way to learn, of course, is just listen how the letters and words are pronounced and look at the words. study
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   13.05.08 17:42

as i see you have quite long words in finnish....do you know actually if it is similar to hungarian? it is said so.....
could you put here some simple words for me to see differencies....
just being curious
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   27.05.08 13:35

Sorry that it took so long. I had some registretation problems and I had to register all over again...... Well yeah, we have quite long words. But I don't know how much it is similar to hungarian so it would be interesting to find out. If I write a sentence or two here, then maybe it will clear this thing out a bit. Or maybe it's better if I just copy a short text from wikipedia about figure skating...

Taitoluistelu on urheilulaji, jossa luistellaan jääkentällä taitoluistimilla ja esitetään erilaisia ohjelmia musiikin tahdissa. Taitoluistelussa pyritään yhtä aikaa sekä teknisesti vaativaan että taiteelliseen ja musiikkia tulkitsevaan suoritukseen, jossa eri elementit kuten hypyt ja piruetit muodostavat kiinteän kokonaisuuden.

Should I translate that in english... Suspect I can do that later if it is necessary..
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   27.05.08 13:54

Katie, What type of problem had you to be connected on the forum?

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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   27.05.08 15:54

lol! well interesting.thanks Katie!
i understood only a few words out of it, so as i thought, hungarian and finnish are not alike.
this is the hungarian wikipedia info. not the same thing i'm sure

Páros és női, illetve férfi versenyre bontható a sportág. Mindháromban egy ún. rövidprogramot és egy kűrt kell bemutatni. Mindkét program fő elemei az ugrások, forgások, lépéssorok, illetve ezek kombinációi és egyéb figurák. A rövidprogram hossza mindhárom kategóriában maximum 2 perc 50 másodperc. A vokális zene nem megengedett, egy pont levonás jár érte.
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   27.05.08 18:16

The problem was only my own stupidity. I simply forgot my password and couldn't ask it to be sent to my e-mail because i have chanced my e-mail to a new one. And I would have needed my old e-mail with this complicated case.. Neutral Shame on me...

Hmm... I have to say that all what I understood from that hungarian text was only because of english. But I'm surprised how much I understood - or at least I think I did mdr
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   27.05.08 19:31

Katie. wrote:
The problem was only my own stupidity. I simply forgot my password and couldn't ask it to be sent to my e-mail because i have chanced my e-mail to a new one. And I would have needed my old e-mail with this complicated case.. Neutral Shame on me...
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You would have been able to ask for it, (you would like to recover your ancient count? You remember more what addresses emal of creation? I can give it to you by mp..

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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   30.05.08 10:24

Katie. wrote:
Sorry that it took so long. I had some registretation problems and I had to register all over again...... Well yeah, we have quite long words. But I don't know how much it is similar to hungarian so it would be interesting to find out. If I write a sentence or two here, then maybe it will clear this thing out a bit. Or maybe it's better if I just copy a short text from wikipedia about figure skating...

Taitoluistelu on urheilulaji, jossa luistellaan jääkentällä taitoluistimilla ja esitetään erilaisia ohjelmia musiikin tahdissa. Taitoluistelussa pyritään yhtä aikaa sekä teknisesti vaativaan että taiteelliseen ja musiikkia tulkitsevaan suoritukseen, jossa eri elementit kuten hypyt ja piruetit muodostavat kiinteän kokonaisuuden.

Should I translate that in english... Suspect I can do that later if it is necessary..


Katie..

I understood a little-little bit...
It is not true that hungarian and finnish suggest each other...
The truth: their old language (very old times, after Christ 300, maybe, or earlier, placed easter side of Ural ) was the same...but this people migrated other ways, and their languge changed...
Hungarians met with turkish people and slavonic people, and we arrived to Karpatian basin a.c. 986.

The two languages have same points, etc. language-system...our l.s. is clumpig too (put the suffixes after the word), and there are changes what we can look for...

and interessant example:

finnish: kota
hungarian: ház
their past is the same...
changes: what was K in finnish, it is hungarian H, almost every word. and what was T, it changed Z, intervocalic position. And all old word lost it's last vocal...this is the key...

Hungarian language has almost 1000 word, which have same past with finnish words....
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   30.05.08 10:49

lol! huha ezt nem tudtam!!!
thanks for the key......
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   30.05.08 20:04

But it's true...

- emesse: tanítják magyar szakon, nyúznak vele mint az atom Smile
(they are teaching in hungarian language facultacy and don't let us any time to have some rest...)


Katie? what's your opinion about this strange relationship?SmileSmile
if you want, i can say more examples from old finnish-hungarian (hungarian named it "finnugor")...

by the way, how's like the weather this time in Suomi?

Oh i can say some thing in finnish, watch it (I'm proud myself:)
.Minä olen Melinda Sandor. Mine olen kaksikymmentäyksi. Minulla on suuri perhe.
Minä olen opiskelija, opiskelen Yliopistossa Debrecenissa.

So what do you think? I did't use any dictionary:)..I have to learn some finnish on 'Yliopistossa Debrecenissa'Very Happy.D.D
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   31.05.08 21:38

Hello/ hei Twitti! It is very interesting to hear about the history of our languages. I have heard about it before but not much. That example is very interesting and I would be more than happy if you tell us more! Very Happy

Finnugor! Not bad! mdr

And I can see that you can speak finnish. Warms my heart. :super:
Opiskelen myös yliopistossa. Mutta nyt vietän ansaittua kesälomaa.

Weather is nice here. Thank for asking. It was very warm and sunny today. sunny
And how's the weather there?
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   01.06.08 12:12

Ahm, weather? It's strange...'cause all day is very hot, you go out and become cooked...but evening and night often rains and it lightens...

So, something about "finnugor" relationship...

There were regular voicechanges, after hungarians left asian places before christ times...and they met with other folks, it changed some things...
what was the same in old "finnugor",I can tell some examples about voicechanges and some words what we can search back...

Hugarian and suomalainen languge is in relationship with lapp, estonian, and other languages from Balt places...

the most interesting example is the inflexion, watch this:
(what I write hungarian, finnish means the same)

Én vagyok - minä olen
Te vagy - sinä olet
Ő van - hän on
Mi vagyunk - me olemme
Ti vagytok - te olette
Ők vannak - He ovat

This is the inflection of the substantive verb with the personal pronouns.

Than next step I write the numbers...

1, egy - yksi
2, kettő - kaksi
3, három - kolme (remember k>h spiratization what I wrote)
4, négy - neljä
5, öt - viisi
6, hat - kuusi
7, hét - seitsemän
8, nyolc - kahdeksan
9, kilenc - yhdeksan
10, tíz - kymmenen
11, tizenegy - yksitoista

take this word: "száz" - "sata"
I told T is changed Z in intervocalic position
watch this: sata > saza > saz > szaz > száz
isn't woderful?

Later I'll tell some things Smile (I have to prepare my exam...I don't want it Sad but I have to, it's very important exam...)
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   02.06.08 21:36

Thanks! Yes, this is very interesting. I guess you have studied this thing. I study culture but know nothing about languages.

And good luck for your exam! It will go just fine Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   03.06.08 13:53

Katie. wrote:
Thanks! Yes, this is very interesting. I guess you have studied this thing. I study culture but know nothing about languages.

And good luck for your exam! It will go just fine Smile

What culture you study? Finnish or hungarian?
When I had finnish language lessons, we studied some culture too, about finnish places, buildings, etc.
My facultacy (hungarian language and literature) makes scholarship journeys to Finland, we can go to Jyväskylä and some other places to study the language, because the hungarian language-researching's most important profile is to make relationships with our language-kinship.
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   03.06.08 16:51

My main subject is digital culture but I also study finnish culture and tourism. So have you already been in Finland from your school? I haven't visit in Hungary but maybe some day.
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   03.06.08 17:31

Oh, it could be great...digital culture, sounds good!! cheers

I've never been in Finland before, because it requires very good overage...I've good, but not enough, and we have to make scientific work, and so on, it's not easy, and only 2 student can go in every half year.
But I wanna see some day, where joulupukki lives:) and a reindeer too:)
My friends told stories about Helsinki and Jyväskylä...
By the way, I really-really like Kiira Korpi too, I've a photo with her...
this is my facebook profile, find me and send a friend request and you can see my photos from Zagreb...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1259898598

I live in Debrecen, this is the second biggest town of Hungary, east side of the country...This is very nice and we have beautiful buldings, squares...
What is your town in Finland?
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PostSubject: Re: Words in Finnish   30.11.08 14:06

Hi everyone!

I'm going to Helsinki for the Euro's (can't wait!!!). So I'm going to need to learn some Finnish words! Can you tell me how I ask how I get to the arena, for example? Or that I actually do not speak Finnish, but that I do speak English... those sentences would be rather helpful...
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